second rod

[half-dutch]

Anybody else willing to pay extra to license a second catfish or carp rod? Not for gamefish or anything else just catfish and/or carp. Perhaps limited to circle hook and cut or prepared bait only...

[Stick500]

I definetly would

might be hard for the COs to police though, though most should be able to tell the difference between bottom fishing for carp/cats and musky/pike

I wish someone wold keep putting forth a second pole proposal every year till something happens

[akthor]

Huh???? I just moved from Maine so I may not know the laws but I thought since Carp were "rough" fish? When I went fishing we had 7 rods between 2 of us??? Is this wrong?

[OnAFly]

Yeah, you don't want to get caught doing that.

Get a regulations booklet at any outdoor sporting goods store. There are are some border waters where you can run 2 lines, but nothing in state. Target species does not matter.

[eyeguy 54]

Huh???? I just moved from Maine so I may not know the laws but I thought since Carp were "rough" fish? When I went fishing we had 7 rods between 2 of us??? Is this wrong?

welcome to the land of 10,000 rules.

[FshBloodRiverMud]

Let's make it 3 or 4 for $40

Or....

Or, we just set limits where they should be and let people use as many rods as they want.

The number of fish that constitutes a "limit" is the important number, not the quantity of rods one uses to catch and/or release fish.

I can tell you, the number of rods I use does not change my attitude about how many fish I do or do not want to bring home. I frequently fish 2-3 rods

[akthor]

So what is the law only one rod at a time???

[Cthulhu]

So what is the law only one rod at a time???

One line, one bait/lure.

Unless you are ice fishing, then two baits/lures.

Or border waters or Lake Superior (2 lines, except the Canadian border)

Or if you are fly fishing, then (usually, but not on NS streams) 3 flies but must be on one line

Or just fish WI and get 3 lures/baits across the board...

[Stick500]

One line, one bait/lure.

Unless you are ice fishing, then two baits/lures.

Or border waters or Lake Superior (2 lines, except the Canadian border)

Or if you are fly fishing, then (usually, but not on NS streams) 3 flies but must be on one line

Or just fish WI and get 3 lures/baits across the board...

just to clarify, ice fishing in MN allows two rods

and WI anglers in their state get to use three rods

border waters (except CAN) are two rods

[JeremyCampbell]

This is a rod pod, used for carp mostly from what I been gathering.Real popular in Europe and even Australia.If they ever pass the law for more than one line in open water,Il be getting one of these pups to bring in the commons.You set them up with electric bite indicators.

Alot of the die hard carp folk on the other side of the world, pitch a tent off some lake shore and camp out fishing sometimes for a 48 hr session with this setup.Most of them use some sort of rod pod like you see in the pic below.Cool stuff! With this set up I'd imagine things would be interesting out there.

Found a picture of it on googly images

[akthor]

I'd love some of those bite indicators. That way I can stop watching the lines like a hawk for a bite. Definitely on my list for next year.

[Cthulhu]

just to clarify, ice fishing in MN allows two rods

and WI anglers in their state get to use three rods

border waters (except CAN) are two rods

Well... not exactly. Multiple lures or baits on one line is taken into consideration too.

Think dubuque rigs, whitefish slider rigs, alabama rigs, etc. In MN none of these rigs are legal open water. Through the ice or on the border you can use 2 baits on one rod, or one bait on each of 2 rods. Here in WI we can (and I have) fished 3 lures on one rod, then I can't use another rod. The regs are worded a bit poorly but I promise that if you use 1 rod in MN with 3 lures/baits on it, you will cited for breaking the law, when asked the MN DNR was clear where they stood on Alabama rigs

[CarpO0101]

This is a rod pod, used for carp mostly from what I been gathering.Real popular in Europe and even Australia.If they ever pass the law for more than one line in open water,Il be getting one of these pups to bring in the commons.You set them up with electric bite indicators.

Alot of the die hard carp folk on the other side of the world, pitch a tent off some lake shore and camp out fishing sometimes for a 48 hr session with this setup.Most of them use some sort of rod pod like you see in the pic below.Cool stuff! With this set up I'd imagine things would be interesting out there.

Found a picture of it on googly images

you might be surprised..there is a large growing community of carp anglers here ... I am member of a group - CAG . Carp Angler Group

They do have lots if fish in and fishing tournments .. OH,IA,IL,WI being most active in this region. last year and this year i been to some events where you see lot of die hard carp anglers .. long rods / big pits /cradle /pods/alarms and lot of other stuff...

If you want a pod i suggest start with a bank stick- you can put alarm on it ..

Lots of local vendor for this equipment ...

and For the First Time - Team USA is completing in World Carp Championship - In Italy this Sep -

so yeas there are lots of carp crazy people around..

[JeremyCampbell]

Had no idea there were tourneys for carping in mn.

Team USA? For carp fishing? I gotta see that.Is it televised?

[CarpO0101]

unfortunately not much in mn unless someone from here take a state chair and get people together .. we have quite potential waters here ..

I think they will have coverage end of the tourney. here is their FB page ... https://www.facebook.com/TeamUSAcarpsquad

I seen these guys in action at WICC - ie Wisconsin Carp Championship this june .. they really good .. we have a good chance to be in top team's i guess.

WICC happens every year - in Two Rivers,WI .

I fished with some of them this year in WICC - they can cast a mile .. 150+yrds

[akthor]

Is that the point of long rods? Casting? Some of the rods I see Europeans use to me they are so ginormous that it would kill the fun of fighting the fish???? Seems they care more about getting the strike and hooking the fish than the fight? I am using what I had when I moved here, bass gear, small mouth bass gear, 6' med action poles. Spinning reels, I did put 12lb test on. But I still lose as many fish as I catch. But man the runs, they don't jump around on top of the water they see the motor the dock the anchor line a tree and they are digging for it! They are very smart. While I would like a little bigger gear just so I have a chance at landing a 20 or 30 lb fish. I don't want surf rods. I want to have to use skill to land the fish not just winch it in.

Tonite we fished on shore landed 4 fish, lost 5, all 5 lost fish they just broke off, violently. On bass gear with 12 lb test you have to make sure your knots and line are perfect or they make you pay. I love it! While I would like the fight to be a little fairer I still want it to be a fight

BTW I took green giant sweet niblets and put them in a container and put a 1\4 cup salt and 1\4 cup sugar stirred it up and left it in the fridge for 2 days. Used them tonite and it was killer! Twice as many bites as last time in the same place.

[OnAFly]

I use to fish them a lot with fly rods. The tippet I was using was 8lb and I would land fish in the 15lb range and up. If you're breaking fish off, your drag is either too tight, too inconsistent, or they are wrapping in weeds/rocks. The drag problem is easy. Either lighten it up or get a reel with a smoother drag. The weeds/rocks problem is tougher. You pretty much have to either go with a heavier line (and probably reduce bites) or live with losing a lot of fish.

I would go with an 8ft med-heavy rod with 20lb braid (helps cut through weeds) and a 2ft section of fluoro. You'll probably have to stick with your 12lb but try 15lb. If the fish don't mind the bigger line, then have at it.

EDIT - The longer rod just picks up the line quicker and you'll have better hooksets from a distance. It also allows you to mend your line around current if you're fishing rivers.

[akthor]

Where I'm fishing there are weeds, lily pads they run into and then trees and brush along the bank. Usually they break off cuz we have to try and turn them from running into that stuff. Sometimes we can sometimes we can't. It was easier in the boat. But we get just as much action from fishing onshore and its nice to not have to deal with towing and launching a boat sometimes.

I tried braid back when it first came out bass fishing. I didn't like it. Too unforgiving I liked the stretchiness of mono. Also was a pain when you snagged the bottom. But I may give it a try.

When you fly fish what flies are you using for carp? Do they readily strike them? Or is it like 100 casts per fish?

[OnAFly]

Well, some days you'd go out and cast 25 times and catch 5 fish if you could sight fish them and they were hungry and not spooky. Other times if you were blind casting, yeah, it was more like 100 casts and maybe catch one or two. Blind casting for carp is a frustrating ordeal.

I would use either a Carp Carrot, Backstabber, large BH Hare's Ear, or a Garbage Pile. All can be found in the What Have You Been Tying Lately post in the Fly Fishing Forum. Some other good ones in there too. I believe one particularly good one was called a Lil Miss by Slabasaurus. He caught a few fish with that fly from under my nose

I used a 6wt or a 5wt for all of my carping.

[akthor]

So if you see them jumping and rolling on the surface you cast at them?

From reading I guess that isn't necessarily feeding behaviors I guess they do it to empty or fill their swim bladders and to clean their gills of debris from digging on the bottom?

[OnAFly]

From what I've understood, it was some sort of pre-spawn behavior, but really I'm not sure at all. I've never had any luck casting to cruising or jumping fish while sight fishing. They all seem completely uninterested in eating. The fish I go for are the ones that are either tailing (head down tail up) or sitting almost stationary. These are the ones that will crush a fly if presented properly. You have about a 1ft circle about 2ft in front of and to the side of the fish. Anywhere else and the fly is either not detected or lands too close and spooks them.

The tough part is finding water that is suitable for sight fishing, contains fish, weather that is suitable, lack of other people throwing wakes at you...and so on. You don't get the opportunity often to do this, but when you do it's about the best fishing to be had in MN, IMO.

[akthor]

The lake I'm fishing they are doing that leaping out of the water and stuff constantly.can't be spawning now. I also read as it turns to fall Carp get very active feeding cuz they know winter is coming. Must be cuz we are fishing for 2 or 3 hrs and its non stop action.

[akthor]

Also I went to fleet farm and got a couple 7' rods (no 8 footers there) they had these rods with reels that had built in strike alarms. Cool idea but the outfits were too huge. Claimed they were for catfish but they were big enough for tuna.

[JeremyCampbell]

Built in strike alarms huh, what do those go for in price?

[Stick500]

I always got the impression that carp leap out of the water just for the he!! of it most of the time- kinda like dolphins!

I don't think they ever feed that way, like a bass might when it strikes at a minnow or a frog at the surface

I've seen the late summer, early fall bite for carp ramp up but it's usually in rivers rather than lakes, but I guess if you know where they're congregating and feeding you could have a good time in a lake, too