DNR online deer survey

[hockeybc69]

Here is a link to a survey for deer.

Pay no attention to the fact it says SE MN survey.

There are several questions in this that do not focus only on SE MN. I do not hunt SE MN at all, but I took the opportunity to fill out the questions that I do have a vested interest in.

For all the SE MN questions, I just selected NA or Dont Know.

Take a couple minutes and fill it out for whatever your stance is. If you think there are too many deer, fill it out. If you think its just right. Fill it out. If you think things need some attention. Fill it out.

Dont skip the chance to answer some of the questions that you can and use the comment box at the end of the survey to pose any specific thoughts or concerns that you have for wherever you hunt in MN.

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/wildlife/input/sedeer/index.html

[Getanet]

I just looked at the survey, and I have to disagree that the are several questions that don't pertain to Zone 3. Only two of them didn't refer specifically Zone 3/SE MN when it comes to deer populations. And by that point all the questions leading up to it did, which would indicated they are only trying to get input from people that hunt or own land in Zone 3.

This isn't a beef with your post, just the way the DNR goes about these surveys. They publicize they are getting input on SE MN, they label their survey "Southeast Deer Season Input" but then they open it up to anyone for input. They did the same with some of the Zone 3 APR surveys, and I know many people completed it who never have and never will hunt there.

[Jameson]

done.

Answered don't know/not familiar with most all of it, but left a couple of comments.

[mntatonka]

I just looked at the survey, and I have to disagree that the are several questions that don't pertain to Zone 3. Only two of them didn't refer specifically Zone 3/SE MN when it comes to deer populations. And by that point all the questions leading up to it did, which would indicated they are only trying to get input from people that hunt or own land in Zone 3.

This isn't a beef with your post, just the way the DNR goes about these surveys. They publicize they are getting input on SE MN, they label their survey "Southeast Deer Season Input" but then they open it up to anyone for input. They did the same with some of the Zone 3 APR surveys, and I know many people completed it who never have and never will hunt there.

There were a lot of people completing the Zone 3 APR surveys from other states even. They also never set them so a person can't take them multiple times. Those two things alone make their surveys worthless

[Jameson]

... They also never set them so a person can't take them multiple times. Those two things alone make their surveys worthless

They do set it so that only the first survey from each IP address gets saved. They don't go around telling everyone that so that the hackers don't take the time to go around that, they just keep re-entering the survey.

[hockeybc69]

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Only two of them didn't refer specifically Zone 3/SE MN when it comes to deer populations.

There are other questions about the DNR in general, not related to zone 3 at all.

I understand what you are saying though Getanet. On this survey I did not answer any of the SE MN questions, as I have never deer hunted there and don't have any plans to do so.

I just said that I wish the rest of the state would get some of the attention that zone 3 is receiving.

[mntatonka]

They do set it so that only the first survey from each IP address gets saved. They don't go around telling everyone that so that the hackers don't take the time to go around that, they just keep re-entering the survey.

you don't honestly believe that, do you?

[jentz]

What a way to screw with management in that zone! Just say everyone should comment!

These surveys should be to only hunters who bought a license for the area.Not for outstate hunters! or other zone licensees

[Jameson]

...you don't honestly believe that, do you?

Only when I am not wearing my tinfoil hat. So, most of the time. We do have some very smart people working at the DNR. Not saying they are working hard or working on the correct stuff all the time, but they ain't all total dummies. They have figured out how to shrugg off responsibility with the public stakeholder/survey process. Surely they will figure out how to make those results legit enough to continue to be able to use them.

[mntatonka]

Only when I am not wearing my tinfoil hat. So, most of the time. We do have some very smart people working at the DNR. Not saying they are working hard or working on the correct stuff all the time, but they ain't all total dummies. They have figured out how to shrugg off responsibility with the public stakeholder/survey process. Surely they will figure out how to make those results legit enough to continue to be able to use them.

They've also figured out how to make surveys lead respondents to answer the way they want to get the results they want to push.