boxcar Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Can I wire a pole barn the same as a garage or have to use conduit or something like that,I know outlets have to be gf what about the lights Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobT Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 It depends. You called it a pole"barn" which suggests that you will be keeping livestock in there? This would require special considerations for ag buildings. Some of those considerations might be related to excessive air-borne dust, moisture, corrosive agents and protecting the wire from the animals. Our polebarn is 52' x 75' x 12'. I built four 12' x 12' horse stalls plus a loft over the stalls to store hay. I wired mine to protect against dust and corrosive environments and used conduit for all wires below 10' above grade. The inspector told me it was a bit over-kill because the size of the building relative to the number of livestock I would house was more than adequate and he didn't feel the dust or corrosive agents would likely be a problem. I feel it's better to over-kill than cut yourself short. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxcar Posted July 6, 2011 Author Share Posted July 6, 2011 Im using the building for storage no critters 30x48 in the Grand Rapids areaBat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMickish Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Are you getting it inspected? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boxcar Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 yes more then likely I will,right nowjust getting a idea how much its going to cost then go from thereBAT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAMAN Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I've never seen a storage shed/pole barn with conduit. It's always stapled romex to the wood structure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMickish Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 You will be legal running romex everywhere except where it comes up thru the floor. You will want to run your power in some PVC to the first box, then romex out from there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoaru99 Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Is UF required in this case, or is NM OK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMickish Posted July 17, 2011 Share Posted July 17, 2011 Underground for your feeder or inside? If you are talking about the feeder and are going to direct bury it you will NEED to have UF or some other wire listed for direct bury. If it's in conduit you will need a wire that is listed for wet conditions (IE; THWN)If you are taking about the wire that will be running inside the building, romex will be fine if you are going to have walls on the pole building and it is relatively weather tight. If there are no walls then it's another issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoaru99 Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 Inside, with respect to what's considered damp conditions/damp space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnMickish Posted July 19, 2011 Share Posted July 19, 2011 This is from the National Electric Code.Dry Locations:A location not normally subject to dampness or wetness.A location classified as dry may be temporarily subject todampness or wetness, as in the case of a building underconstruction.Damp Location:Locations protected from weather and not subject tosaturation with water or other liquids but subject tomoderate degrees of moisture. Examples of such locationsinclude partially protected locations under canopies,marquees, roofed pen porches, and like locations, andinterior locations subject to moderated degrees of moisture,such as basements, some barns, and some cold storagebuildings.Wet Locations:Installations underground or in concrete slabs or masonry indirect contact with the earth; in locations subject to saturationwith water or other liquids, such as vehicle washing areas;and in unprotected locations exposed to weather.A unfinished unheated pole barn would more than likely be classified a damp location. If it was finished it would be dry. In that case you would need to run UF inside the building as well. Working with UF is a pain in the butt, but here is a tip. If your going to do the work yourself, when it comes to stripping the outer covering off, use an old patato pealer and you will shed much less blood than if you use a knife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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