What's a Skid Loader worth?

[pureinsanity]

I understand why they took the skidloader but my question is why didn't thet take the vehicle used to transport the deer to the taxidermist or the bow he shot it with after it was dead? I believe we are not getting the whole story here and neither is the DNR.

I am assuming since a family member took it in for him there was no questions asked. Maybe a conflict of interest? Not all of the story is here. Some of the story might be false as you know how news stations operate!

[LightningBG]

Lets take a look at which of these dont add up...

1. gross misdemeanor for taking big game out of season ($3,000 fine),

2. taking a big game animal without a license ($1,000 fine),

3. gross misdemeanor transporting an illegally taken big game animal ($3,000 fine),

4. failure to validate a deer tag ($1,000 fine) and

5. failure to register a big game animal ($1,000 fine).

Restitution for a trophy buck is $1,000.

1&2 - if it was out of season, it wouldn't be possible to have a license.

This story was updated on 12/31/2010 10:49:10 AM, thus stating this incident happened before this date. The archery season goes until 12/31/10. So there was a season open. Archery.

But he shot it with a gun. Which was out of season, therefore he couldn't have had a valid license.

3 - has any illegal game ever not been transported? Seem like a charge every poacher on earth would be charged with.

If you do your research you will see a lot of vehicles are seized for this matter because they are used in the crime.

Ummm, yeah. Thats the point. Its like an add on bonus fine for the sate. Because nearly every animal ever taken is transported. It's a given.

2&4 - What tag? How was he going to validate the tag he didn't possess when he shot the animal?

see below

1,2 & 5 - How is he going to register a deer without a license that isn't in season?

He purchased an archery tag as stated in the story above

BUT HE SHOT IT WITH A GUN. F the archery. He didn't have an archery license at the time he shot it, nor did he shoot it with a bow. Either its failure to register a legal hunted deer or its taking a deer illegally, in which case its impossible to register.

[LightningBG]

It's like the guy stole a car, and their charging him with auto theft and driving with expired tabs on the stolen car. Their just tossing stuff on.

[BigJakeL]

I know a lot of guys will disagree with me but i believe $10,000 worth of fines and the guys skid loader taken away for shooting a deer on his own property that was supposedly "seriously wounded" Is way too much! This is more than a fine some Child molesters get! Seriously out of proportion! Give him a hefty fine, FINE! I believe that there should be something for these offenders that would make them work on the wilderness lands that we, Americans and ethical legal hunters pay to preserve!

[nonteepical]

i tend to agree with you, i don't think half the charges will get convictions.

[pureinsanity]

They probably won't but I say stick all the charges they can on him.

LB

It doesn't matter if it was in season or not.

Angling with out a license and targeting fish that is out of season is no different than what you are arguing.

You are going to get fined for angling with out a valid license, and you are also going to get nailed for targeting a species that is out of season.

Why should they only charge him with one and not the other?

Sure they seem to contradict each other but everyone on here should be perfectly happy with the fines and outcome taken against this guy. If you do not! what kind of conservationist does that make you?

Not a very good one in my opinion.

The amount of money you and me spend to hunt and fish goes towards conservation. Sure not all of it. but if you take into consideration all the people who are employed making things better and easier for you and me to go out and do something we all enjoy. Giving you public land to hunt, you a place to launch your boat, you a place to go for a hike. I can keep going but this all costs a lot of money to get, to maintain, and to keep open.

There are tons of law breakers out there. Not saying everyone can be stopped or everyone follows the rules either.

If you all are disagreeing with these charges that much, you should reconsider it.

If it wasn't for the DNR, for licensing fees and for people not getting caught, we wouldn't have most of the pleasure we do.

Respect the laws, and you won't have a problem. Break the law, except what you did, and take it like a man. Stop whining.

I hope they whack him with all the charges listed above. It be nice to know that some of that money is being used for the enjoyment of people who respect the DNR and Conservation and what we actually do have access to...

[BigJakeL]

They probably won't but I say stick all the charges they can on him.

LB

It doesn't matter if it was in season or not.

Angling with out a license and targeting fish that is out of season is no different than what you are arguing.

You are going to get fined for angling with out a valid license, and you are also going to get nailed for targeting a species that is out of season.

Why should they only charge him with one and not the other?

Sure they seem to contradict each other but everyone on here should be perfectly happy with the fines and outcome taken against this guy. If you do not! what kind of conservationist does that make you?

Not a very good one in my opinion.

The amount of money you and me spend to hunt and fish goes towards conservation. Sure not all of it. but if you take into consideration all the people who are employed making things better and easier for you and me to go out and do something we all enjoy. Giving you public land to hunt, you a place to launch your boat, you a place to go for a hike. I can keep going but this all costs a lot of money to get, to maintain, and to keep open.

There are tons of law breakers out there. Not saying everyone can be stopped or everyone follows the rules either.

If you all are disagreeing with these charges that much, you should reconsider it.

If it wasn't for the DNR, for licensing fees and for people not getting caught, we wouldn't have most of the pleasure we do.

Respect the laws, and you won't have a problem. Break the law, except what you did, and take it like a man. Stop whining.

I hope they whack him with all the charges listed above. It be nice to know that some of that money is being used for the enjoyment of people who respect the DNR and Conservation and what we actually do have access to...

I'd have no problem if i knew that one hundred percent of that money when to conserving lands and educating kids and young adults about hunting but how much of that money actually stays in the county it was paid in and what is it actually used for?

[pureinsanity]

I'd have no problem if i knew that one hundred percent of that money when to conserving lands and educating kids and young adults about hunting but how much of that money actually stays in the county it was paid in and what is it actually used for?

You'll never know, just like where your taxes go from your paycheck.

Don't hunt, don't fish and don't use state parks. Than you have no worries where that money is going because it doesn't effect you. People who don't do those activities can complain all the want about what fines this guy is getting.

[nonteepical]

They probably won't but I say stick all the charges they can on him.

LB

It doesn't matter if it was in season or not.

Angling with out a license and targeting fish that is out of season is no different than what you are arguing.

You are going to get fined for angling with out a valid license, and you are also going to get nailed for targeting a species that is out of season.

Why should they only charge him with one and not the other?

Sure they seem to contradict each other but everyone on here should be perfectly happy with the fines and outcome taken against this guy. If you do not! what kind of conservationist does that make you?

Not a very good one in my opinion.

The amount of money you and me spend to hunt and fish goes towards conservation. Sure not all of it. but if you take into consideration all the people who are employed making things better and easier for you and me to go out and do something we all enjoy. Giving you public land to hunt, you a place to launch your boat, you a place to go for a hike. I can keep going but this all costs a lot of money to get, to maintain, and to keep open.

There are tons of law breakers out there. Not saying everyone can be stopped or everyone follows the rules either.

If you all are disagreeing with these charges that much, you should reconsider it.

If it wasn't for the DNR, for licensing fees and for people not getting caught, we wouldn't have most of the pleasure we do.

Respect the laws, and you won't have a problem. Break the law, except what you did, and take it like a man. Stop whining.

I hope they whack him with all the charges listed above. It be nice to know that some of that money is being used for the enjoyment of people who respect the DNR and Conservation and what we actually do have access to...

First off i don't want the government to accuse anyone of something thats not, if the charges contradict each other that means your being accused of something you didn't do, either it's one or the other.

Second if your idea of funding conservation is through fines, thats PUREINSANITY! join a sportsmans club and get involved or if your lucky enough to legally harvest a trophy buck and it makes a record book,

enter it, that money is a donation and goes directly towards conservation.

Third, i don't agree with what the guy did, but that deer quite possibly could have been wounded and he felt sorry for it. i don't see much difference between him, and the guy who's tagged out and takes a deer for every relative who dosen't hunt, or has to go to the local watering hole looking for someone to tag a deer.

[trolloni]

Any wildlife violation is poaching pure and simple ,just as speeding in youre car is breaking the law ,i just hope all you throw the book at em individuals realize this fact!