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[lookin4fish]

i would go there and pay a day road access pass. then post a want add on fm here and ask if someone will pull it out for you. go to the resort, hook it up, pull it out on the lake, and never head back there again. the stories of problems with certain buisness on "the big pond" going sour happens every year. heck, even eyewitness news has done undercover stories on it. each person who "just pays it to be done with it" contibutes to this type of thing happening every year. i never have any of these problems or even hear of it when people go the the "bigger ponds" like Red and LOTW. I know it puts some guys in a hard place when there is waiting lists to have storage spots around the big pond, so they end up supporting this kind of behavior. but if people said enough, the remaining good resort owners would be so busy, they could buy out the resorts that go in the red becasue they have not mastered customer service over the past 100 years. look at hillmans or Red lake. Nice little place, small bar, small bait shop, but great service. storing your shack up there is no problem, they dont come after you with an axe, and everyone that goes there comes back year after year. Red lake has had tough times for so many years. you read in about every other issue of sportsman news how quotas for summer walleyes are not met becasue the fishing pressure is slow during the summer. but you know what? these guys still make it becasue the provide great service and make up for the slower summer seasons with a strong winter presence. they provide Great service! all i am saying is support those places that treat you right and fair. sometimes this creates a huge inconvience because you may have to find a whole nother place to store you fishhouse for the year, and hope no place plows you in when you have it on the lake, but it's the only way to make it stop. ok...i am done with my rant.

p.s. I would love it if you would post the resort so i dont make the mistake of giving them the buisness, but i understand why you dont want it done here...

[Shack]

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[mike morris]

I don't understand why a post like this would have to be removed... Nothing less, he's giving a heads up to anyone else who decides to make the same type of decision.

If they deserve criticism, then let it be known.

[Shack]

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[DARTER]

It seams to me that a simple contract between the resorts and fish house owners could alleviate allot of problems. First and last months rent, security deposit or maybe you have to remove your house from property before selling unless arrangements were agreed upon with resort owner prior to sale. It seems like an easy problem to solve with some planning and a little research. Sounds to me like they (resorts) don't want to fix the problem. Interesting thread anyways.

[lookin4fish]

i think you make some great points, and it is only one side of the story. if this is as cut and dry as the original post stated, it is foolish. if there is more to it, then things might make more sence. anyways, word of mouth is important reguardless. i would not send a friend into a lions den if he "did not do all his homework" and should have known it was a lions den.

[aanderud]

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This is not the first time that a house owner has stiffed a resort.Many times a new owner shows up to move a house that has a outstanding balance owed what else can the resort do?

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Well, taking property that's not rightfully the resort owner's and holding it hostage is certainly NOT a good answer. The resort owner can continue billing and pursuing the money from the previous client, just like any other business. If you move into a house or apartment and hook up electric/cable/phone service, you are NOT liable for the previous owner's misdeeds. Outstanding debts for bills like this are simply sent to collection or whatever by the billing company. The new owner is not aware and need not worry about things like this unless the bills specifically place a lien on the house, which is why there's title search and other contract work done to verify ownership status. This situation is no different. The fish house title is clean unless the contract specifically states that the resort owner can take the house in lieu of past due payment. I'm guessing this is NOT the case in this situation, since the original poster here said he has paid a year's rent and probably saw no such clause in the contract. If there was such a clause present in the contract, then the original poster has no beef with the resort whatsoever.

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I think we are ganging up on this resort a little to hard. They are conducting a business and following the American Dream.

If one went to a hotel with the worlds best customer service, if the bill is not paid, they will still want their money no matter who occupied room yesterday or to day. If they get it, is another story.

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The american dream does not consist of holding one customer's property hostage until another customer pays a bill. I'm assuming the title is clean and no lien was officially placed on that fish house, in which case the customers are really independent from each other. The resort can continue billing the old customer for past due payment while the new paying customer is happily serviced independently. Taking collatoral that isn't speficially laid out in a contract is just plain theft.

And since you mentioned hotel, we might as well make note that this resort is acting exactly OPPOSITE of how a hotel operates! Have you ever checked into a hotel and had to pay the bill for the previous occupants? If so, I'd like to have been in on that conversation! Again, independent transactions between independent customers. The fact that you shared the same room doesn't tie you together.

[JDM]

I seriously question the legality of the resort holding this person's property hostage. If it were my house, I think I would go to another resort. Consumers always have choices.

I would try to reason with them, and if that didn't work, I would report them to the BBB. I would then go retrieve my property. The issue is between the previous owner and the resort. These resorts should have a written rental contract that would enable them to pursue legal action to retrieve any funds owed.

I think this resort owner is really being shortsided. I don't know how much rent is or how much money we are talking about, but my guess is that the new owner would easily surpass it in expenditures including lake passes, bait, food and drink, etc... Also - I think the resort owner can write it off as a business loss, so thier liability is decreased.

Also - shame on the previous owner of the house!!!! He should have paid it. I certainly would be calling him.

[Shack]

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[DARTER]

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Hotel is a bad example. When I was young, a good buddy checked into a local hotel/motel and had a massive party. The next morning he was gone, but I was still there. They came into clean and found the bad mess and started yelling at me and saying I had to pay for this. Well needless to say, I left. Bad story in more ways than one and not a good example for this thread. Sorry.

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What?

Not good again Shackback. The resort is a landlord, not a bank. They didn't lend the money to buy the house with. Resorts responsibility to collect passed debts. It's that simple, or it should be.

[Shack]

You guys are right, I am wrong. The resort is out of line. The more I think about this, I am fighting a loosing battle. No one from a resort chimed in, so I must be wrong. Customer service lacks big time at this resort. I hope the original poster moves after this is settled.

Gives a guy a good loop hole on how to jump around from resort to resort for about 10 years, with out paying second half of seasonal fees. Just buy and sell between a buddies and pull it out of there when bill is due. Just joking

[Scott M]

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I would try to reason with them, and if that didn't work, I would report them to the BBB. I would then go retrieve my property.

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If you go the BBB route, CC the Attorney General's Office. I dealt with the BBB on a complaint but IMO the Attorney General has more power and who is more likely to do an inquiry, BBB or state law?

Got any friends that practice law? I'm sure they'd love to hear about this and give a little counsel. A little legalese might help this particular business owner see the light.

Good luck.