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what it comes down to is this- if you want to stop using a bobber, all you need is a bobberstop. this givs a means of being able to have your line carried by a release mecinism. the release is held uprite by the stored energy in the (bent) spring steel that raises the flag. by placeing the spring steel near the pivot point you then have an easy breakaway (release), and the breakaway requires a greater force as the placement go's further away from the pivot point, which will hold a larger, more agressive minnow, to target biger fish.

the release, of course needs a platform, (base) why not make the base as insulative as possible? all that has to pass thru is line via a door in the base to place / remove the tip-up.

it is not recomended to use a closed face reel, as the boberstop will not pass the pickup pin, as is the case with slipbobbers.

catching a fish with any tip-up out their today is like hiting a baseball with a broomhandle. and who would want a young kid to haul off and yank on line with his/her hand's, not knowing what might lurk at the other end? Enough for now. Hope Iceleaders/ FM will forgive my long windedness, and pro-staff will report any sucess and/or failure with the prototypes they were good enough to test.

I'll close with my own origional jargon,

just set your drag and watch that flag! - get the edge with DragonFlag. ®

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