Yellow/ Ivory Labs

[Coldwater Crappie Guy]

I am having a tough time finding a light color yellow lab female puppy. I have been looking for a long time on the internet, but they all want way too much money for them I think.

I am able to train the dog for waterfowl hunting. I also want the female to weigh around 65 lbs because I hunt out of a boat most of the time.

So if you have any leads on a pup for me to look at, please leave me a PM as I check them many times a day.

Thanks for any help.

[Todd Caswell]

How much is too much , and what other qualities other than color are important.

[Coldwater Crappie Guy]

I think that $600.00 is too much.

I guess what I am looking for is a dog with a good attitude, one that is good with kids. I love having a dog in the house.

I got pretty spoiled 13 years ago with the lab I had. Now looking for one that will be like her. I know its a lot to ask for.

[Todd Caswell]

Do I think you can end up with a nice dog for less than $600.00 sure, heck I know of alot of "free" dogs that ended up being good hunting dogs, I also know of some really high end FT puppy's that never ended up being any good even as gun dogs, but I believe in most cases you get what you pay for, if you think $600 is too much for a puppy ( wich is the smallest expence of the total ownership of a dog) then it makes me wonder what will happen when the dog blows out a knee, end up with lymes, ect. I figure it costs me around $ 700 per year per dog for feed and vet bills and thats if nothing goes wrong, so the cost of the puppy is minute in comparison.

What I look for rather than color is trainability ( titled parents) health clearences, temperment.

I'm going to repost something that I posted in a different thread to explain why a litter may cost more than some people think they should.

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When people see a litter advertised for $1000.00 or better out of titled parents they have to realise how much money it cost to get those titles, all the health clearences, and the cost of raising the puppy's properly. It cost alot, by the time you figure in the cost of a well bred pup, a couple years of training, entry fees, travel, motels ect. A MH title or a QAA trial dog might cost you 10,000 in expences, it's almost never a money making sitution.

A trainig partner of mine has a HRCH UH MH QAA 6 year old female, had a nice litter 10 puppy's at 3 years old out of my QAA male, sold them for $800 (very reasonable). Bred her last fall to a nice QAA yellow male that needs a win for his FC had 7 deposits befor they were born was selling them for $1000.00. She ended up loosing 4 of the 6 puppy's, had to have a C section and have her spayed, so you can amagine how he came out on that litter. What I'm getting at is it cost alot to do it right.

[deerhunter]

Tried to send you a pm but your over limit I know of some great labs. I know this bloodline well. The pups are almost three weeks old

[Hooktup]

I have no prob spending extra $$ on a dog. When you / it by 12 years of hunting behind a kick a$$ dog its not that bad. Do your homework and you wont be disappointed I've said it before but look at northern plains retrievers. I have been a customer for 10 years and it has changed hunting for me. Its just starting with the right stuff then you take it from there.

[Ray Esboldt]

Just my .02 cents here and by no means am I even a good amateur trainer. So, take this for what it is worth.

One, I would not want a white yellow lab in a duck boat with me (unless there is snow in the cattails or I have a fully enclosed blind). I try to hide everything that is not tan, brown, green, or black when duck hunting.

Two, $600 is a bargain if it comes with peace of mind that this dog should have potential because of responsible breeding and proven lines (field or trial). Breeding for color is not what I would consider responsible. Breeding for quality with an end product of a white yellow lab is a side effect and a bonus for those inclined to have that dog. Responsible breeding in itself does not guarantee anything either, but does give you something to work with or hope for.

I am not trying to sway you away from this dog, but don't get stuck on color.

[surewood]

Dogs are an area that I don't believe you get what you pay for. You get what you train for in most circumstances. If the parents have good drive for the area you want to use them for then you'll have a good chance at having a dog that fits your needs/wants. Don't matter if they're free or 5,000$ imo. With that said I also believe there are some dogs that just won't have it. My neighbor had two litters of lab pups. Many of which are yellow. Not sure if he still has a yellow left. I could ask if you're interested. Don't know anything about the mothers, but the father has great drive to retrieve.

[Todd Caswell]

Dogs are an area that I don't believe you get what you pay for. You get what you train for in most circumstances. If the parents have good drive for the area you want to use them for then you'll have a good chance at having a dog that fits your needs/wants. Don't matter if they're free or 5,000$ imo. With that said I also believe there are some dogs that just won't have it. My neighbor had two litters of lab pups. Many of which are yellow. Not sure if he still has a yellow left. I could ask if you're interested. Don't know anything about the mothers, but the father has great drive to retrieve.

It really depends what your looking for, I look at quality bred dogs like talented athletes or race horses, in most cases very talented athletes come from a long line of talent, no different in dogs, and yes there can be duds in any breeding, you are also correct in the fact that if the buyer has no idea or very little idea how to train a dog or how to bring out the most in any given animal it doesn't matter how good the breeding is. I spend alot of time around different pro trainers and you can almost always tell the low end bred dogs compaired to the well bred dogs, they typically fall behind in almost all areas of the program, from basics through transition, every now and then there is a diamond in the rough but it's not the norm. I do believe you get what you pay for if your looking for something special, if your looking for a pet thats different.

[surewood]

I can see that with elite dogs. I shoulda mentioned I come from a pov that if my dog is good with obedience training and can hunt how I want efficiently then it's exactly what I want. Definitely no disrespect to anyone that trains to the highest degree and has a great pedigree that helps to accomplish that.

[Coldwater Crappie Guy]

I am very interested deerhunter. I cleaned out my messages so if you would try to message me again that would be great. I will also give you my e mail address. [email protected]

[Coldwater Crappie Guy]

Surewood.. I am also interested on hearing more about the labs you might have a lead on. [email protected]

[P_Norts]

Crappie Guy,

We picked up 2 black labs in July from North Pine Kennels in Bovey. I believe he breeds yellows also. they are great pups.

Mama Norts

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