Goose Call?

[CluckmeMN]

I talked to some guys that were at a show this summer about this... some Shawn and Scott guys, must have big deals cause everyone was talking about then and buying their videos?

What do broke in guts do that regular guts can't? Broke in guts are the same as regular guts, but someone who probably has a much different calling style than yourself broke in... so, wouldn't it make more sense to buy non broke in guts, which will force you to practice more, to master your notes, and know how to do it correctly? Instead of cutting corners and taking the easy way out by relying on the guts to carry you through your inability to do the notes correctly?

It made sense to me atleast?

Maybe that is why you are having a hard time learning those difficult notes?

What kind of difficult notes are broke in guts needed to do? I don't have any broke in guts in my hunting calls and i can do any notes i try to do, n I think we shoot alot of geese? Well alot to us atleast...

[GooBack]

OMG! Were can i get some bigs at.i just got a goose call for xmas and those look really sweet

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I talked to some guys that were at a show this summer about this... some Shawn and Scott guys, must have big deals cause everyone was talking about then and buying their videos?

What do broke in guts do that regular guts can't? Broke in guts are the same as regular guts, but someone who probably has a much different calling style than yourself broke in... so, wouldn't it make more sense to buy non broke in guts, which will force you to practice more, to master your notes, and know how to do it correctly? Instead of cutting corners and taking the easy way out by relying on the guts to carry you through your inability to do the notes correctly?

It made sense to me atleast?

Maybe that is why you are having a hard time learning those difficult notes?

What kind of difficult notes are broke in guts needed to do? I don't have any broke in guts in my hunting calls and i can do any notes i try to do, n I think we shoot alot of geese? Well alot to us atleast...

Again this is just my opinion but no that doesn't make any sense at all.

[Fowlmouth]

When it comes down to it, just practice as much as you can. Simple enough. Calls that come with "broken in guts" are just another gimmick to get people to buy calls.

[CluckmeMN]

What do broke in guts give that regular guts don't? They just can't be magic and I can finally do spit notes or triple clucks on it without learning how to do those notes first?

I will tell you, broke in guts WILL NOT MAKE YOU A BETTER CALLER, NOR WILL THEY FINALLY ALLOW YOU TO EXECUTE NOTES YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE WITHOUT THEM!

Broke in guts were molded from a used set of standard guts. They were wore in after use, not invented to make notes easier!They were also a marketing tool for those people who like to cut corners (these people are usually average hunters, who through their laziness are only average because they dont want to do the work and reap the benefits of their labor)! A vaccume will break in guts just the same but a crappy caller will see no benefit from them because they didn't put in the time to break them in themselves!

If you never changed a reed in your call over 5 years your guts will be broke in but if you only do single honks for those 5 years doing other notes will do nothing to the call...

1) buy a call that fits your mouth and hands comfortably

2) buy a call who's maker will stand behind their product and give you parts and pieces as needed

3) worry about the way it sounds LAST! Any call can be tuned any way you like, and you can put nearly any set of guts in it!

Dont cut corners, when it cmes to calling. If you break in your guts yourself, you will know your call inside and out. This is why good callers become great callers. Not because of a set of guts which makes no difference EXCEPT AIR PRESSURE/PRESENTATION, and SOMETIMES TONE! And its also why all the best callers you see on stage all use their own guts they broke in themselves! Because THEY broke them in, not someone else, and not to mention the changes that are inherently made through the molding process!

That is the end of story! Give me a list of notes anyone wants to hear, and ill do them on both standard guts and on broke in guts n you tell me which is which! Im being serious here!

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What do broke in guts give that regular guts don't? They just can't be magic and I can finally do spit notes or triple clucks on it without learning how to do those notes first?

I will tell you, broke in guts WILL NOT MAKE YOU A BETTER CALLER, NOR WILL THEY FINALLY ALLOW YOU TO EXECUTE NOTES YOU HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVE WITHOUT THEM!

Broke in guts were molded from a used set of standard guts. They were wore in after use, not invented to make notes easier! A vaccume will break in guts just the same but a crappy caller will see no benefit from them because they didn't put in the time to break them in themselves!

That is the end of story! Give me a list of notes anyone wants to hear, and ill do them on both standard guts and on broke in guts n you tell me which is which! Im being serious here!

If you never changed a reed in your call over 5 years your guts will be broke in but if you only do single honks for those 5 years doing other notes will do nothing to the call...

1) buy a call that fits your mouth and hands comfortably

2) buy a call who's maker

[CluckmeMN]

Wow. You went from calling novice to calling expert in roughly 3 replies. you can achieve notes that you can't achieve with with non bigs. You are wrong there. If you think you are going to step on the comp stage one day, like you mentioned in your other reply, ask your competitors how many of them have bigs in their calls. I can guarantee you will be the only one without.

What does changing your reed have to do with this? That doesn't make any sense.

1) buy a call that fits your mouth and hands comfortably - This isn't a pair of jeans

2) buy a call who's maker - Seems like sound advice.

My point on this was if you're going to get a call and start, why not try and be the best. You can either where them in or buy them but either way it's my opinion you'll be happier with the call once your guts are worn in.

I know a thing or three about calling, and calls... Ill never know everything about em tho...

I have even been at calling contests too! There are alot of really good callers in MN and the surrounding states!

** What notes CANNOT be achieved? I just want some examples, or a list? Asked a couple times but must have gone unnoticed

What does a reed have to do with broke in guts? I guess nothing, guts just wont break in without a reed??

ever seen a set of personal broke in guts with uneven wear? Its because the reed was not centered perfectly in the call... doesnt hurt the guts or sound, just makes uneven wear...

So this is what I gather from the last part of your post...

Buy ANY call, preferably one with a bad azz sounding name that looks cool, dont even touch it, JUST BUY, then go home and wrap in barbed wire?

Isnt fit important?

[cutter08]

Not a comp caller but consider myself a good goose caller. With a lot of practice you can do almost any note on a goose call with or without BIG's. IMHO it is a lot easier to do some of the advanced notes on a call with BIG's. Some of the advanced notes that i feel are easier to do on BIG's are Spit note, train note, advanced double cluck(rolling double cluck), And Buzz clucks.

I have tried to break in guts on a few calls and man does it take a lot of time. If you really want to break them in on your own i would suggest that you use a full reed and not a shaved reed. with a full reed it breaks over a little harder but you will start to get grooves in your guts a lot faster. and by the time you do break them in you will have a lot of time spent practising. My go to call in the field is a Tim Grounds Real Thang and that has BIG's in it from Grounds. It all comes down to what you feel comfortable with. I hunt with a few guys that have them and a few that don't. both sound good with enough practice

[Quackaddict9]

I don't have any broke in guts in my hunting calls and i can do any notes i try to do, n I think we shoot alot of geese? Well alot to us atleast...

Are you sure it's not your DSD's???

Welcome to the site Mr.MN STATE GOOSE CHAMP, guys this is the guy to ask questions about tuning, how to do this, etc on your goose call. He knows his stuff about calling and contest calling.

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I'm sure it's not Mike Benjamin. He's usually much more cordial and professional when he posts on forums.

[Quackaddict9]

maybe it isn't?...I've seen this username on a different site and it is Benjamin and location says St.Cloud but I guess anyone could do the same.

[CluckmeMN]

Cutter08- thank you for your response! Like you mentioned, it take more work and practice to break in guts. I would even suggest that the reason you might find those notes easier is due to the design of the call, and your ability to execute the notes correctly instead from the start. When you can do a note you can pick up any call and do it. The ease of doing notes comes down to the tuning more so than guts

Maxxed Out - not really trying to bust your balls, but you still haven't answered my question to you.

I don't think there is anything wrong with a good healthy debate. Everyone does stuff differently, but bold statements without backing, or questionable actions are always grounds for getting called out on. If your gonna post about anything, you gotta realize the world always has something to say. Some days your the bug other days your the windshield