Ice-55 owners

[HaRdWaTeR jUnKy]

Still debating on the vex22 or the ice55, just wanted to hear some good things about target seperation. Been doing alot of research and the lack of target seperation has been brought up a few times, and the amount of gain that is needed to see your crappie jig in 20+ft of water! Any previous vex owners that switched to humminbird out there I would love to hear your pros and cons, Ive been using a marcum lx3 the past few years and what I should expect if I go with the bird! thanks

[Craigums]

I havent used a bird too much but one thing that I find cool is the lack of interferance from other units. I went out with my buddy last night who has a ice55 and we drilled a hole and put both our transducers in the same hole (ive got an lx5) and there was no interferance at all.

[KG243]

One thing you have to keep in mind is the second run of the birds have a gain setting 1-50 a little different then a vex. There was just a big topic on target separation and as far as I can tell they all work. I know with my bird that it rocks my world, great product, but then again so are chevys and fords!

[CJH]

Check out this thread:

http://www.hotspotoutdoors.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/2429249#Post2429249

There was another thread on target separation a while back and the consensus was that it is marketing mumbo jumbo. I don't think the scale of any of the displays are capable of showing any fractional differences. I see the fish, I see my jig, I see the fish come up to my jig, I see the fish eat my jig. Do a search and you will find the thread.

[fishwater]

There was another thread on target separation a while back and the consensus was that it is marketing mumbo jumbo. I don't think the scale of any of the displays are capable of showing any fractional differences.

Not true. I believe the consensus is that the concept of target ID is mumbo jumbo. Target separation is real and can be measured by anyone out on the ice. I've used them all and Marcum units do have the best target separation; you can make your signals very discreet with them. Any flasher is awesome for catching fish, usually target separation won't land you more fish.

[CJH]

I think it's hooey. They are claiming a target separation of 1/4 inch. That means that showing one foot on flasher (which is tiny, even in zoom mode) it essentially has 48 different bars/segments. So on this tiny little sliver of space on the flasher you are going to be able to see it broken down into 48 segments and be able to read it and tell the difference? Hogwash. Even if it can pick up that separation, it can't display it that precisely. By Vexilars own admission, it can only display "525 segments of resolution" on the entire display. In 20ft of water, at most it would leave 26.5 segments, and that's only if 20 ft is displayed across the entire display. And that's only true if the display isn't chopped up between the normal mode and zoom.

So long story short, real world you can't tell the difference (if there is one to begin with).

[KG243]

Not true. I believe the consensus is that the concept of target ID is mumbo jumbo. Target separation is real and can be measured by anyone out on the ice. I've used them all and Marcum units do have the best target separation; you can make your signals very discreet with them. Any flasher is awesome for catching fish, usually target separation won't land you more fish.

[fishwater]

Yeah, sinker tests aren't going to land fish. The thing with a Vex is that your confined to a box-like gain domain. Not so much with a Hbird or Marcum. With a Vex, your lucky if you can define your bait by 5-6 led segments, even in lp mode at times. Yeah they are pretty and they catch fish. Face it, a vex is a blob machine.

[PerchJerker]

There was another thread on target separation a while back and the consensus was that it is marketing mumbo jumbo