Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
gill man

Genz Fatboys

8 posts in this topic

I know there must be a few of you that like the Genz Fatboys for 'gills and crappies. I like how heavy they fish, how well they show up on sonar, and how well they make finicky fish bite. My only problem seems to be with my hookup rate. I don't know how many times I felt good taps only to set the hook to nothing, or get an on the edge lip hook. Has anyone else had problems with these? I've tried bending the hooks out, putting different angles on them, leaving them just like they were in the package, and everything else, but nothing seems to work. It seems to be a bigger problem when the fish are on a tough bite, but I still seem to miss a few when their biting more aggressively. Switching over to a #10 pounder seemed to up my hookup rate, but I like the Fatboy better.
If anyone has some advise on this I would appreciate it. I love the idea of the jigs, but if I can't connect they aren't worth much.

gill man

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

gill man - I started with systems tackle when I started fishing a few years back and I had the same problem with my fatboys as well it seemed I lost more neutral/negative fish and it's frustrating. The way that body style is on that jig there is a small hook gap window when you think about a fishes mouth. Not to mention I am not to crazy about the hooks on there jigs they rust after a season even drying them off after every outing they pit. None the less the Marmooska is the best jig hook design I have seen for panfish and these jigs can take a beating. I use a Thorne Bros. sweet thing and that is my favorite shallow water rod I accompany it with Berkley Micro ice 2lb. and a Shimano Sedona 500FA reel. I hope this helps.

[This message has been edited by CNY Tim (edited 11-15-2002).]

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Gill Man
any time you use a horizontal hanging jig like a fat boy, the best thing to use on your line is a clip if some sort like Al's Kwik Klips. This keeps the jig in the horizontal position and allows for a free swinging action but when a fish hits and you set the hook, the jig comes sraight up and your hook ups will be much better.
If you tie you fat boy drectly to your line and the knot is not centered so the jig hangs horzontally, when you set the hook, it will swim away from the fishes mouth because you're knot may be to the front of the hook eye causing this situation.
Sharpen those hooks on the fat boys. they must use some cheap import hook that doesn't have much of a point because I use a fat boy style jig from a guy who makes them out here and they work great with the hooks he uses.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Good point shadow joe, if you can't find the quik clips just make sure you adjust your jig after every fish you catch so that it hangs horizontal and straight.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I sharpen those hooks on all Systems jigs and love them but they have a tendency to break on me,is it because the hooks are too thin or am I just removing too much meat from them?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When I fish gills with Fatboys I like bend the hook out to the side. This seems to get a better hooking percentage because when the fish takes the jig and you set the hook the hook slightly tips to the side causing an open hook (head of the jig slightly to opposite side) set just as if you had a plain hook. This doubled my hooking percentage when I changed to this approach when using Fatboys. It doesn't effect the action of the jig either.

Good Fishin, Matt.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I also have the best success with bending the hook out to the side. There's not much you can do other than switch to a verticle jig. That's the problem with small thin wire hooks.

------------------
MILLE LACS AREA GUIDE SERVICE
651-271-5459 http://fishingminnesota.com/millelacsguide/
click here

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks for the replies. I might try a couple new angles on the hooks, and I'll give bending it to the side a try. I figured that would make it spin while you jigged it, but it couldn't hurt to try.
I was surprised that I had trouble with these. I assumed that they would work well with Dave Genz using them all the time, but who knows. They seem to work pretty well when the fish are hitting a little better. It seems like the light bighters/finicky fish are the tough ones. When you have to try hard to get one to take, it's pretty frusterating when you can't connect-time after time, especially when the slabs are running close to an honest foot, and the gills are hovering around the 8 inch mark.
Enough of me boring the heck out of you guys. If anyone else has something to add feel free. Pray for ice!

gill man

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    • Where did you hear that food plots were to be banned?   I have seen about banning "feeding deer"  which I took to mean the classic set up a feeder and dump corn and alfalfa in it.     Jumping on areas immediately has been shown to be successful in preventing isolated cases from spreading and becoming endemic.   Once it becomes established in the herd, it seems as if controlling it is no longer possible.   It also seems as if CWD is fairly hard to catch for a deer, or else it would be all over everywhere and all the deer in an area like Dane county would have it.    Oh, and the infected deer could have come from a deer farm, or from Iowa where it has been detected in the county bordering MN on the SE.    
    • I wouldn't call myself wealthy, but I've made good life choices that have enabled me to buy my own land.  Still pack my own lunch and watch for sales at the grocery store.  I don't own land in SE MN, I own land in northern MN.  The reason I am concerned is that this will serve as a template for herd control tactics in other parts of MN.  Understand that the game management agencies have conferences where they talk about managing hunters.  You don't have to look any further than the work of Dr. Gary Alt in Pennsylvania.    I can't put my finger on exactly what is going on with the results the DNR has presented.  Were the samples snuck in by a nefarious actor?  I wouldn't rule it out.  Was the disease always here and just finally discovered?  I don't see why not.  Is there a unique environmental reason that CWD hasn't gotten a broad foothold here?  It's possible.    If the agency had some credibility going into this, I'd be on board pounding kool aid myself, but they don't.  So color me skeptical.  None of the WI border counties along zone 3 have CWD according to this map.  However, Burnett and Polk do and there is no monitoring on our side up there.  Can a scientist explain that to me?  Because the geographic barriers up there are non-existent compared to  the Mississippi River along zone 3.       
    • I made the decision to replace the pump every few years rather than the carpet.
    • On my aluminum skid house I've been using thread cutting stainless steel screws from Fastenal
    • There might be a pleasant surprise in the works.   In the meantime, it is entertaining to watch anyway....      
    • Huh---Guess you must have the butthurt.
    • You are cooking it before you eat it right? I've only heard people using Cure when using dehydrators or may be for jerky when using burger. I have never used the stuff but don't like or make dehydrated jerky.   Seem to still be alive!
    • Creepworm, I am somewhat angry.  The reason it's fool hardy to consider food plots any more threat than a farm field is that the intentions of the planter don't change the flavor of the forage.  A food plot is no more attractive than the edge of a 160 acre bean field that meets a fence line, swamp edge, or grove.     Now imagine there are no farm fields or food plots at all, not even a decent yielding apple tree.  Deer will still communicate via scrape trees and licking branches during the rut.  If the current belief is that the prions spread via saliva, what's to stop wild deer from licking a branch that an infected buck has licked?  What's to stop a buck from rubbing their face all over a contaminated branch?    My fear is that lots of deer are going to be slaughtered in an area that just happens to have been a hot target for eradication before CWD was found.  I'm also worried we're going to get all kinds of bad rules imposed that won't do squat to actually stop the spread if the disease is actually in MN.  I'm worried we'll lose a critical habitat tool that allows us in harsh winter kill areas to help the deer make it through winter (food plots).    It'd be interesting to watch the DNR try to ban food plots.  Good luck defining what is and is not a food plot. 
    • Don't know how they got there.  Maybe they got confused with CWD and wandered up from Iowa.   Or maybe there are a few more but they didn't happen to get shot or didn't get tested.     So, you are a wealthy land owner?  Is the land in 348?     Sure, you are free to question the DNR.   I never said you weren't.   And you, so far as I know, are free to refuse to cooperate with the program to control CWD.   As I have said, that is exactly the response of the land owners in Wisconsin that I recall from back in the day.     However I am curious.   Are you accusing the DNR of planting or fabricating this instance of cwd for some nefarious purpose, like killing most of the deer in that area for unknown reasons?   Or do you just think that these were the only two sick deer and everything will be fine without any action? 
    • Nice product.  Would work great with my Lindell Ice Rigs....
  • Our Sponsors