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Should we lose all our ice?

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Would it be better to lose all our ice and basically start over with fresh, new, good (hopefully) ice? I just can't imagine that the stuff we currently have around the metro will do anything but hinder the good ice forming. Should I be thankful for 45 degrees again today? I guess I'm looking for any silver lining here with this weather.

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The ice we have now in most places still has some strength.. and even with the 3"-6" we have in most locations, it will get much thicker in a hurry when/if we get some weather. When the ice honeycombs(growing air bubbles basicly), it will generally get impregnated with water. When it does finally get cold again, that water will freeze and strengthen this ice some.

We should have some pretty stable, walkable ice before long again at most locations.. substancial ice for vehicles will be another story. Its going to take some time unless we get a weeks dose of antarctica weather.

It doesnt take long to go from 6" to 14" of ice, from there it seems to really slow. The junk ice we have now will still hold some weight, but I sure wouldnt be driving my full size truck on 12" of ice with this ice part of that 12", but the wheeler wouldnt bother me.

Pray for a brown, cold christmas! Snow would be a killer right now!

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My buddies and I were on Lake Demontreville yesterday (Thursday), and there was a good 5-7" of ice yet. It was extremely hard and we felt very secure WALKING by the landing and the near bays. It does get below freezing at night and I believe most of the day ice melt does refreeze again.

Just my opinion.

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A quick question...we talk about the honeycombing of ice due to the rain and such, but if it is melted water or rain water filling the pockmarks and freezing before we get any snow cover, is the strength lost? I was amazed at the strength of the fresh clean ice earlier this winter, and I just can't see how the entire integrity would be lost from 6" before to 6" now. The top may be a little rotted, but from the last couple of water bodies I was on I was on Weds, it seemed pretty good to me; I measured and there was no lost thickness from the last week.

I KNOW TRUST NO ICE, so please don't harp on me. If I am careful and check as I walk and take no risks on thin ice, 6" before to 6" now seems safe to me for walking. The accesses and shorelines are a different story, though. I put my foot through 2 separate times, but never over my boot.

I AM NOT TELLING ANYONE TO GO ON ANY LAKE AT ANY TIME, DON"T TRUST ME! confused.gifcrazy.gifsmile.gif

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So far the prediction of hitting 45 this afternoon might not

happen, its been 28f here all morning and the low clouds are

helping keep temps down. This is great news as far I am

concerned. I just hope it stays this way tomorrow to. grin.gif

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Planks can work great towards the end of the hard water season. Of course, generally by then it is not your first time on the ice and you have an idea of the ice condition.

Driving around the metro today I saw a few lakes that looked they were opening up in spots. Clear Lake (just south of Forest Lake) looked a bit risky. Quite a few guys were out there last weekend, and a couple early this week, but none today. I saw (what appeared to be) a hovercraft rescue last year on Clear. Be careful out there.

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pulled the spear shack off yesterday and the ice was getting soft, well I got off work early and pulled it back out the cooler weather last night seemed to freeze up was secptical at first but once I got out their it was pretty good. stiil had 9 inches of good ice under me just have to pray for below freezing temps for about 10 days and no snow.

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I dont think that this thaw we are going thru is the same as in spring.The shorelines on lakes and rivers are what takes the biggest hit,the ground warms faster and weakens the edges.There are weak spots that open up also, but those spots were weak to begin with,and these places are where early danger occurs but most folks dont see them.I also think that the sun in spring,being much stronger than it is now has a big impact on how the top layer of ice erodes.Dont get me wrong,we did lose ice but I think for the most part the ice that is left is in pretty good shape for refreezing.

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Last weekend we had over 4'' of solid ''Black'' ice...Unfortunatly, this weeks warm front has pushed out the cold and melted most of the ice...Not even a skim today mad.gif It will be another few days before we see any temps that will be below zero...Nothing we can do but wait...

Bring on phase two laugh.gif

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Saw a great story/video on Channel 5 about houses going through the ice all over the metro - they look like big square bobbers....

Channel 5 article and video

I've been building my house for the past 2 years, and it's probably up to about 1500-1800 pounds. No way I'm taking it anywhere near a lake for weeks yet.

Looks like I'm going to have to fall back on my old reliable clam again this year.... I was really looking forward to forced air heat this year confused.gif...

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