Timberwolves 2012-2013

[Storm]

Hopefully this doesn't happen but would understand and respect it 100 percent.

Adelman May Quit As Timberwolves Head Coach

[Scott K]

Ya I seen this before, totally understandable if he does.

[ozzie]

so did anyone catch the lamest officiatted NBA game of the year last night and no I am not talking th Bulls/Heat...I am talking the Wolves/Lakers!! First they give JJ a T for saying he was hacked and then Kobe destroys Rubio on the final 3 pointer and the ref swallows his wistle instead of making the right call sending Rubio to the line for 3 shots to tie the game!!! I am so sick of crappy refs in the NBA!!!!!!

[Scott K]

I seen parts of the game, but I didnt catch the end, with the bad calls. Oh well, even though we got robbed, we actually are better off losing at this point, so in reality, it really is a win.

[Juan Grande]

I'm sure the call wouldn't have been different had Rubio fouled Kobe at the end of the game.

[ozzie]

I don't know if that was a win with a loss type deal there 4wanderingeyes as if we would have won then that is screwing with the Lakers playoff chances and everyone but the NBA/Lakers wins with them out of the playoffs!!! haha

[ozzie]

and Juan if the situation was reversed if Rubio even breathed on Kobe they would have called a foul!!! That is the thing in the NBA is that they treat each player different instead of calling a foul a foul and Ting up a guy when they feel like it and not do the same when the other team acts like a bunch of babies whining about this and that!!!

[schmitty3]

Regardless Rubio probably wouldn't of hit 3 free throws lol.

[ozzie]

this is true but I would have loved to see the excitment in the building and how Rubio would have done in that situation...for as little as it is worth the NBA came out and said a foul should have been called and then mumbled under their breath "at least LA still is in the playoffs$$$$$$$$$"

[Scott M]

I feel so much better now that the NBA admits there was a mistake. Kobe thinks the Lakers would have just won in overtime so it's a moot point.

[Juan Grande]

Has Derrick Williams played well enough in his absense that we consider trading K.Love? He's had pretty healthy stat lines in all the games where he managed to play 30+ minutes.

Not saying I'd lobby for this, just throwing it out there...

I might consider it if we could get a good (young) SG for him. Williams has to learn how to shoot FTs first though.

[schmitty3]

DWill sucks

[ozzie]

dwill has only made himself more intriguing when Love comes back. No chance in heck do they trade Love based on DWill's performance. Now would they trade DWill now that he has improved his value??

[Scott K]

They need to keep both. Where would we be right now if we havent had Williams? Love needs a back up, and minutes off from the game. Williams is a good replacement, and he can fill in at the 3 for short periods of time. Williams is a tweener, and that is what makes him valuable. He is better at the 4, but is starting to play the 3 fairly well, and his defense has improved a lot. If we trade Williams, it better be for a starting caliber SG, and nothing less.

[thatoneguy]

DWill sucks

Now that's the piercing insight I come to this site to see!

[schmitty3]

He can't shoot consistently, can't finish around the rim, can't play post defense, and can't stick with the quick forwards around the perimeter, rarely boxes out, and misses free throws. When the ball goes to him on offense all the movement just stops. He tries to be a 1-on-1 player, but just isn't good enough.

[mrklean]

least they won tonight, but i don't know if that's good or bad there hurting draft chances

[ozzie]

schmitty3 have you been watching the Wolves the last couple months? D Williams has improved on his defense, has been finishing off once he gets to the rim, and has really improved his game since the all-star break!!! I am not saying he is a superstar by no means but he has improved and is coming into his own in this league!!

[schmitty3]

To be honest, no not really lol. I've just watched a few games here and there when the Wild aren't playing. I've never been a D Will fan, and don't believe he will ever be a good NBA player.

[Scott K]

I have watched most of the Wolves games this year, maybe not every minute of the games, because when they are getting smoked, I lose interest fast.

Williams has gotten a lot better, but he is streaky, and not consistent on offense. His D has improved a lot, and I would put him in the slightly above average area as far as over all in the league. He at least isnt a liability on defense anymore. He usually is in front of the guy with the ball, and doesnt get burned nearly as much as before. Lets just say, if he looked this way last year, he would have been in the ROY discussions. His potential is shinning, and he is no longer considered a wasted pick, with hope of someone taking him for a trade.

Right now I would estimate his trade value to be worth a top 5 pick in the draft, anything less, we shouldnt even be listening.

[ozzie]

totally agree eyes!!! The thing with D Will is that out of high school he wasn't recruited and he wasn't much of a player then at AZ he blossomed into a good college player by the end of his career...now in the NBA he is trying to catch up to the speed and learn the offenses. He has the skills but it is all about polishing them out and making him comfortable and confident that he can play in this league and we are starting to see this!!! I am going to say that he may become an All-Star in the next 2 years

[schmitty3]

At his size in today's NBA you have to be able to shoot. He can't, maybe he will develop a consistent J, but I doubt it.

[Scott K]

At his size in today's NBA you have to be able to shoot. He can't, maybe he will develop a consistent J, but I doubt it.

Right now his shooting isnt very consistent, which is hos down fall now. But if you were to give me a choice between Rubio, Schved, or Williams to take the last shot, I would pick Williams.

The kid is 21, and what he has shown this year, he has grown up a lot. If he can continue to learn, he could be a good shooter. He has his nights though, but that comes with young players. Give him 2 years.

[Scott K]

Now Peck is a monster, and they better find a way to keep him here, for many years.

[Juan Grande]

Yeah, people are ready to write DWill off as a bust. This is his second year in the league. He can shoot the three, he just needs to develop a mid range jumper and get a better handle. Seems like all his points are on dunks from Rubio feeds or threes. Keep in mind that Wolves asked him to drop weight to try to play the 3 so he might have some trouble banging down low or defending bigger players in the post.

Kevin love is a better player at this point, but he has a lot of the same deficiencies DWill has. He can't create his own shot, can't score in the post, can't defend the post, doesn't make others better and he's very inefficient shot-wise for a PF. He has a unique skill set in that he's an elite rebounder and can shoot free throws and threes. In his breakout year he shot .448 from the field which is not good for a 6'10" PF.

The Wolves actually play better team basketball without KLove in there because they move the ball and don't feel obligated to get him his requisite shots every time down the floor.