It appears the HDS-5 uses the fluorescent cold cathode and the HDS-7 and up models use the White LED. Can anyone comment on the differences or expectations of one vs the other?
Using google everything I find actually says the Cold Cathode is better and lasts longer.
LED Lamp:
1. Filament in lamp provides a point source of light.
2. Leaves an after-image in the eye contributing to the induction of spatial disorientation.
3. Begins to slowly fail after initial use. LED lights are typically
designed to exceed rated light output (candela) for a
particular light specification. This is because within the first 500
hours of operation a percentage of LEDs dim. Although the LED does
not fail, over a period of time the light output continues to dim below
design specifications. Long before their 100,000 hour claimed life
expectancy occurs, the light fixture falls below specified light
requirements. 100,000 hours of claimed operational life of the LED
light fixtures is not consistent with written specifications.
Note: 100,000 hours = 10 hours of operation per day for 27 years.
LED lights have only been on the market for a couple of years.
These claims cannot be substantiated. While the LED light continues
to operate it can give a false landing cue for pilots, causing significant
safety concerns, including the induction of spatial disorientation.
4. Night Vision Device (NVD) incompatible.
EXPENSE AND APPLICATION FACTORS
5 Lamp life – varies with manufacturer's claims. Average lamp life
Is reported to be between 1-5 years.
6 Power consumption for the LED type fixtures is rated at 10 watts,
transformer operating on a 6.6 amp airport lighting system. In reality, it comes closer to 20 watts. The FAA isolation transformer provided to operate incandescent type lamps consume 10 watts. A typical incandescent lamp rated at 30 watts actually consumes approximately 44 watts.
A 45 watt lamp consumes 67 watts.
7. Compatible with rheostats that vary the input current (amperage).
MAINTENANCE AND RELIABILITY
8 Maintenance of an LED light must be done at the factory. Removing
the LED light unit to return for repair requires replacing the fixture with a new one. Aviation, marine and other marker lights must operate every
day from dusk to dawn.
COLD CATHODE LAMP:
1. Electrodes in lamp do not provide a point source of light.
2. Leaves no after-image in the eye.
of spatial disorientation.
3. Cold cathode lamps function at rated candela levels until they fail.
4. Night Vision Device (NVD) compatible.
EXPENSE AND APPLICATION FACTORS
5. 20,000-40,000+ hours, 5-15 years. This life expectancy is proven with
over 50 years of manufacturing experience.
6. A cold cathode lamp consumes 23 watts. If the cold cathode
did not have to plug into the FAA isolation transformer (per
FAA regulation) the consumption would be approximately 14
watts.
lamp rated at 30 watts actually consumes approximately 44 watts.
7. Compatible with rheostats that vary the input current (amperage).
MAINTENANCE AND RELIABILITY
8. Cold cathode lamps are easily replaced in the field typically
I just figured that it is easy enough to just get a 3 bank so when the boat is not in use I can keep all 3 batteries charged. I have not bough a charger yet, maybe I will give it some more thought.
Edit: After thinking this over, with the size, weight, and heat output of the charger (as well as the cost) I think it makes sense to just
buy a 2 bank charger, I have a smaller charger i can use on the starting battery when the boat is sitting at home. Forgive me, for i am a retired engineer and I have to obsess over everything...
Congrats on the motor! I think you’ll like it.
I can’t say much on the charger location but I’ve seen them under the lid in back compartments and under center rod lockers. 160 degrees is more than I expected to hear.
Curious why you’re opting for a 3 bank charger with a 24V trolling motor. Unless you don’t feel you be running you big motor enough to keep that battery up as well?
I did buy an Minnkota Ulterra, thanks for the recommendations. I had a bunch of Cabela"s bucks saved up, which helped. Now i need to
get an onboard battery charger. Where do you guys mount these things in your boat? The manufacturer I am looking at {Noco genius)
says tht their 3-bank charger will run at 160 degrees, seems like a lot of heat in an enclosed compartment? Thanks for any input on this.
Wasn't terrible at a state park beach. Antelope island maybe. I wouldn't recommend it as a beach destination tho. Figured I was there, I'm getting in it.
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Moe Szyslak
It appears the HDS-5 uses the fluorescent cold cathode and the HDS-7 and up models use the White LED. Can anyone comment on the differences or expectations of one vs the other?
Using google everything I find actually says the Cold Cathode is better and lasts longer.
LED Lamp:
1. Filament in lamp provides a point source of light.
2. Leaves an after-image in the eye contributing to the induction of spatial disorientation.
3. Begins to slowly fail after initial use. LED lights are typically
designed to exceed rated light output (candela) for a
particular light specification. This is because within the first 500
hours of operation a percentage of LEDs dim. Although the LED does
not fail, over a period of time the light output continues to dim below
design specifications. Long before their 100,000 hour claimed life
expectancy occurs, the light fixture falls below specified light
requirements. 100,000 hours of claimed operational life of the LED
light fixtures is not consistent with written specifications.
Note: 100,000 hours = 10 hours of operation per day for 27 years.
LED lights have only been on the market for a couple of years.
These claims cannot be substantiated. While the LED light continues
to operate it can give a false landing cue for pilots, causing significant
safety concerns, including the induction of spatial disorientation.
4. Night Vision Device (NVD) incompatible.
EXPENSE AND APPLICATION FACTORS
5 Lamp life – varies with manufacturer's claims. Average lamp life
Is reported to be between 1-5 years.
6 Power consumption for the LED type fixtures is rated at 10 watts,
transformer operating on a 6.6 amp airport lighting system. In reality, it comes closer to 20 watts. The FAA isolation transformer provided to operate incandescent type lamps consume 10 watts. A typical incandescent lamp rated at 30 watts actually consumes approximately 44 watts.
A 45 watt lamp consumes 67 watts.
7. Compatible with rheostats that vary the input current (amperage).
MAINTENANCE AND RELIABILITY
8 Maintenance of an LED light must be done at the factory. Removing
the LED light unit to return for repair requires replacing the fixture with a new one. Aviation, marine and other marker lights must operate every
day from dusk to dawn.
COLD CATHODE LAMP:
1. Electrodes in lamp do not provide a point source of light.
2. Leaves no after-image in the eye.
of spatial disorientation.
3. Cold cathode lamps function at rated candela levels until they fail.
4. Night Vision Device (NVD) compatible.
EXPENSE AND APPLICATION FACTORS
5. 20,000-40,000+ hours, 5-15 years. This life expectancy is proven with
over 50 years of manufacturing experience.
6. A cold cathode lamp consumes 23 watts. If the cold cathode
did not have to plug into the FAA isolation transformer (per
FAA regulation) the consumption would be approximately 14
watts.
lamp rated at 30 watts actually consumes approximately 44 watts.
7. Compatible with rheostats that vary the input current (amperage).
MAINTENANCE AND RELIABILITY
8. Cold cathode lamps are easily replaced in the field typically
in less than 10 minutes.
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