CRFan1 Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Or does it have a bad reputation? I know it's carbureted but is there any feedback good or bad on this motor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine_man Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Pretty much bulletproof... they're highly reliable and run well when properly maintained.marine_man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flooringuy Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 That's what I run. Have only had it since May but it seems to run good and no problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FM_Mike Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 Had a 2000 50 hp carbed 4 stroke. Nothing but trouble with mine. Carbs gummed up and needed cleaning constantly. 300 dollars a shot at the shop. Owned the motor new and since it was considered a FUEL issue it was not covered under warranty. In the 2 years I had the motor it was in to have the carbs cleaned 3 times. Got so fed up with it I sent a letter to Merc. and they replaced my motor with a 50 hp EFI 4 stroke.The new motor is GREAT. Never had it to the shop for ANY issues. NO so called FUEL ISSUES and it has been great. I have little if any good to say about the carbed motors. Check with some Merc. shops, the carb troubles from the ones I had talked to were well known. I was told they love to see them because it is a quick 300.00 on the carb job. Just MY experiences...Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trolloni Posted October 13, 2009 Share Posted October 13, 2009 my expierience with mercs , the only thing that has ruined more fishin trips is the weather !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine_man Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Regardless of the motor brand; if you're concerned about Fuel degrading and breaking down be sure to run fuel stabilizer in the gas, and don't add it after a trip - it needs to be run through the motor for it to do much good.marine_man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRFan1 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Thanks guys, just curious on reliability. Carbs are no biggie. You just got to make sure and drain the float bowls if it is going to sit a long time. I Think Stabil is a good idea too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRFan1 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Pretty much bulletproof... they're highly reliable and run well when properly maintained.marine_man Thanks Marine man...what sort of maintenance do you recommend aside from Lower unit oil and plugs, once a season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marine_man Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Other than lower unit oil, be sure to run fuel stabilizer if the boat is going to set quite a bit...marine_man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRFan1 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Other than lower unit oil, be sure to run fuel stabilizer if the boat is going to set quite a bit...marine_man Gotcha, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskieJunkie Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Here's my 2 cents.Is it a decent motor - yes. Is it a good motor - no. There are a lot better options out there.I've had 3 of them over the years, ranging from 25-90 HP, and a couple of my friends run them currently. I won't buy another one. It is a solid reliable motor (the actual engine) as stated but they do have their issues with starters, power trim etc.My main complaints are:They are hard to start, you'll have to come up with a system of pumping the fuel ball, hitting the choke, and feathering the throttle, if it floods then it ever harder to start.... And on a cold day you'll have to bump the choke just to keep it idleing for a few minutes until you're able to run. I run seafoam in every tank and had asked 2 different mechanics about it and they both said "we can't fix it, that's just the way these motors are".They are very loud.And they use a lot of fuel, probably twice as much as some comparable motors.Most of those issues are carb related, I would shop for a rig with a fuel injected motor if it was me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRFan1 Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Here's my 2 cents.Is it a decent motor - yes. Is it a good motor - no. There are a lot better options out there.I've had 3 of them over the years, ranging from 25-90 HP, and a couple of my friends run them currently. I won't buy another one. It is a solid reliable motor (the actual engine) as stated but they do have their issues with starters, power trim etc.My main complaints are:They are hard to start, you'll have to come up with a system of pumping the fuel ball, hitting the choke, and feathering the throttle, if it floods then it ever harder to start.... And on a cold day you'll have to bump the choke just to keep it idleing for a few minutes until you're able to run. I run seafoam in every tank and had asked 2 different mechanics about it and they both said "we can't fix it, that's just the way these motors are".They are very loud.And they use a lot of fuel, probably twice as much as some comparable motors.Most of those issues are carb related, I would shop for a rig with a fuel injected motor if it was me. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Esox_Magnum Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 We run an 05 60 merc on our muskie boat, once it starts its a good runner, trick is getting it started. It does seem to like to drink, alot more than my old 1993 70 Evenrude. Of course it is a little underpowered for the boat its on that could be part of the gas guzzeling problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky_Madness Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Agreed, had a 50 Merc and it did the same thing as listed above: drank gas, burned oil, and was a b*%$h to get running especially if it flooded. If you hear a VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOM somewhere on the lake when a boat is starting up, odds are its a Merc firing up. The 50 Merc has been upgraded a wee bit to a 150 Optimax and a night and day difference beyond the ponies. And yes I know they are totally different monsters but I wouldn't ever go back to a non DFI engine again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surface Tension Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 I've got a 1993 40 Mercury Classic(4 cylinder). I've had it for over 10 years, in that time all that was needed was a new impeller.One of the best outboards I've owned for reliability.Quiet and being a 4 cylinder very smooth. Yes they do need to be choked on cold starts then a bump(s) of the choke till it warms up. If your fouling plugs or flooding I'd pull gas line and let it run a minute before you shut it down and trailer it back home. That is especial important with any outboard with a remote tank. When I get home I trim the outboard back down. One reason is the floats will drop into the normal position. Also having the oil tank in the engine cover I like that being in normal operating position. The hard starts could be as simple as changing the spark plugs. I'll fog the outboard every Fall. Come Spring I'll put the muffs on and burn the fogging oil off. Then I replace the spark plugs. If I don't replace those plugs after fogging I find it harder to start. Eventually sometime that summer new plugs will be needed. So you might as well start out the season right. Gas consumption. No matter what outboard you run, if your running at WOT it is going to burn a lot more gas then if you backed off to 3/4 throttle. We call that cruising speed. Something that got lost along the way with most guys worried about squeezing that last mph out of their boat. When you see and hear matching an outboard to a boats max rating that is what they intended. To get the best performance at that 3/4 throttle. That gives you plenty of power to jump on plane, then back off the throttle to cruise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRFan1 Posted October 16, 2009 Author Share Posted October 16, 2009 Thanks all for the info! I have decided to bite the bullet and go with one of the DFI 2 strokes on the Classic 165 CS (probably 75hp) Going into the dealer tomorrow to see what options and costs are for an upgrade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MuskieJunkie Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 If you hear a VRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOM somewhere on the lake when a boat is starting up, odds are its a Merc firing up. HA! I had to smile when I read that. That's been me a few times, but not any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musky_Madness Posted October 16, 2009 Share Posted October 16, 2009 Alright! Someone here knows what I'm talking about...that thing can roar once it fires on. You'd swear the cowling is gonna take off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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