Jump to content
  • GUESTS

    If you want access to members only forums on HSO, you will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up .

    This box will disappear once you are signed in as a member. ?

fertilizer question


Rip_Some_Lip

Recommended Posts

I received the U of M analysis for the soil sample from my garden today. The results were: a fine soil texture, a PH of 7.1, organic matter of 6.3%, Phosphorus 72 ppm, and potassium of 300+. The only nutrient application recommended was 0.15 lbs/100 sq. ft. of Nitrogen. It also said a ratio of 33-0-0.

My question is if I can get a fertilizer with just nitrogen? And if so, how should I apply it? I have a garden that is approx. 550 sq. ft. in size. I assume I should till it in. I plan on tilling in some sand in the garden because it is pretty clayey and most of it is new and just got tilled up this year.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You should be able to go to a local feed mill in your area and get something close to that.

You don't have to have exactly 33-0-0, but a 30-0-10 would suffice. The numbers are a guideline, not an exact.

Also, the fertilizer will work its way into the soil, no different than if you were to fertilize grass.

If you wanted, you could throw it in when you plant the seed too (what my father does) but personally I would just spread it over the top once you're done planting.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Yes you can buy straight Nitrogen, but usually its all fast-acting nitrogen. I would look for something that has a mix of slow-release in it. Less chance of burning and it will last longer. Not a bad sample. Many folks would love soil like that.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

You should be able to go to a local feed mill in your area and get something close to that.

You don't have to have exactly 33-0-0, but a 30-0-10 would suffice. The numbers are a guideline, not an exact.

Also, the fertilizer will work its way into the soil, no different than if you were to fertilize grass.

If you wanted, you could throw it in when you plant the seed too (what my father does) but personally I would just spread it over the top once you're done planting.

With the little bit of farming experience I have, I have found that when spreading nitrogen, you don't really want to leave it on the surface any more than necessary as it will evaporate. Granular form may be less prone but I usually try to spread my fertilizer before I go over my fields the second time so the fertilizer is mixed with the soil.

Just a thought.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Thanks for the info guys. I work for a city and I talked with our horticulurist(sp?) and he said I should probably till in a little compost to get the organic number up a little too. he also said I wouldnt go wrong with a little potash also like a 33-0-10. Thanks again.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

From a guy who looks at literally 1000's of these soil test results per year, those are nice levels. Any farmer would be glad to have them. lawnmowingman is right about using a mix of slow release N for fertilizing especially the grass. Spreading a product such as urea (46-0-0) on top and not working it in does increase the potential for loss, especially when applying to a moist soil surface, the temp & humidity is high, and there's a lot of plant residue. Generally if it rains a 1/2" or more within a day or two after application, no incorporation needed. As far as the organic matter level, at 6.3% that's on the high end of what we typically see for a mineral soil in MN. Adding compost won't hurt anything though and may improve the tilth since as you say it has a fair amount of clay in it. Congrats and have fun with your project! grin

Link to comment
Share on other sites

When I lived on the Iron Range I tilled an area for a garden. Anyone that has tried this will quickly learn that the soil up there is anything but good for gardening. Too much clay to deal with and it is difficult to work with. One thing I did to improve the soil was gather up a bunch of the leaves in the fall and place a layer on the garden over winter. The following spring I tilled the leaves in. That year it didn't help much but the following year I had some of the nicest soil I could imagine to work with.

Food for thought, no pun intended.

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • Yeah it was a beatdown
    • Your kid needs to stay with him!👍
    • My kid was eating in Beverly Hills and ran into this guy. Talked to him a bit and wished him luck in the game tonight.     
    • 🤔as a recovering machinist!🤣🤣that must make me a recovering welder!
    • As a recovering machinist, I can appreciate that.  If the spec is 0.001 - 0.0015, then clearly the correct measurement is 0.00125, duh…
    • I just figured that it is easy enough to just get a 3 bank so when the boat is not in use I can keep all 3 batteries charged. I have not bough a charger yet, maybe I will give it some more thought. Edit: After thinking this over, with the size, weight, and heat output of the charger (as well as the cost) I think it makes sense to just buy a 2 bank charger, I have a smaller charger i can use on the starting battery when the boat is sitting at home. Forgive me, for i am a retired engineer and I have to obsess over everything...
    • Congrats on the motor!  I think you’ll like it.   I can’t say much on the charger location but I’ve seen them under the lid in back compartments and under center rod lockers.  160 degrees is more than I expected to hear.   Curious why you’re opting for a 3 bank charger with a 24V trolling motor.  Unless you don’t feel you be running you big motor enough to keep that battery up as well?
    • I did buy an Minnkota Ulterra, thanks for the recommendations. I had a bunch of Cabela"s bucks saved up, which helped. Now i need to get an onboard battery charger. Where do you guys mount these things in your boat? The manufacturer I am looking at {Noco genius) says tht their 3-bank charger will run at 160 degrees, seems like a lot of heat in an enclosed compartment? Thanks for any input on this.
    • You're very lucky a troop of Sea Monkey's didn't carry you away.   
    • Wasn't terrible at a state park beach. Antelope island maybe.  I wouldn't recommend it as a beach destination tho.  Figured I was there, I'm getting in it.
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

By using this site, you agree to our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy. We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.