Bottem bouncers?

[Dano2]

a couple questions for yuz.
do any of you use pro-pointer bottem bouncers?

How do you like them?

Do you know of any good videos on useing bottem bouncers?

This could be a silly question, but here it goes. I'm no pro at wally fishing, but I'm trying anyway. when ever I use a bottem bouncer its just been with a crawler harness, reason why is because One day I fished with someone that actually new what he was doing and thats all we used when useing BBs, was a crawler harness, question is, do folks use them with leeches as well?

I've also read about folks useing them with floating raps? when would be the best time for this setup? anytime?

also, when useing the BBs, does the same rule apply as far as snell length when just useing a sinker and spinner rig?

when fish are hugging the bottem, what length snell do YOU use?
what if their about a foot or two off the bottem?

would this work the same when useing a floating rap and BB?

Thanks alot, I've read some of this stuff before and have been useing the search tool as well, just need to refresh my memory and get some fresh input.
thankyou

[This message has been edited by Dano2 (edited 07-19-2004).]

[can it be luck?]

Dano,
BBs are mainly used while either one, you're moving, or two, the waters moving. Hence the name "bottom bouncer". The design itself allows you to rarely fish it else wise.
Once I used bottom bouncers on the English River in a "non-traditional" way. Fishing from shore, in fast current, with slip sinker eating rocks, I cast the BB, 2' leader, and leech upstream and drift fished it in the current. The BB's sideways profile allowed it to slide over the top of snags that normally would've stole my weights. For me, this has been the only time I fished in such a way with a BB.
If you want to fish a slowed down, bottom hugging approach, use slip sinkers.
The BB doesn't have the sensitivity as other methods do such as live bait rigs, 3-way rigs etc. BBs are designed to fish in a vertical presentation, either bouncing it along in the current, drifting over snaggy areas, trolling weight, etc. All this can be done while the fisherman chooses to either maintain contact with the bottom or pull it at a suspended depth. These methods keep the bait at a 90 degree angle which it was meant for. Besides that, it avoids tangles.

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[Dano2]

Thanks again CIBL, anyone else out there with some more tips and any answers on my other questions would be great.
Thanks

[ChuckN]

Not familiar with the name pro-pointer bouncers.

I really love the Northland pro series bouncers that slide on the line. This tactic has been deadly ever since I started using it, in fact, it's all I use now for the most part.

The key is I hardly ever make contact with the bottom, only hit the bottom to make sure I am in "the zone". I will fish the weight about 1-2' off the bottom and with a 4-5' snell it will either directly follow the bouncer's path, or likely fall about 1' right into the walleyes face.

When you get a bite these fish cannot sense pressure it seems. Then you lightly drop the weight to the bottom, and when that weight sinks, it just stabs the bottom and remains stationary. The line will slide through the plastic quick change snap and I can litterally watch those fish run with the bait. It's something I've never experienced with any other method around.

The best thing is the quick change snap allows you to take the bouncer weight off so there is no mess in the rod storage, bouncer banging around, etc...