Musky I know where you are coming from. I have the same issue with the area I hunt. The 3 other sides surounding my area are on board with manage hunting and it has definatetly showed from 3 years ago when i talked to them. We pass on 2 1/2 -3 yr olds every year. My only problem is the small area of state land that butts up next to mine. Year after year there one or more small baskets, forks or button bucks that get shot and it bothers the heck out of me. The BROWN ITS DOWN mentality is absolutely dominant. Granted i only see groups of 2 or 3 ppl out there (knock on wood) but shoot a doe if you are hunting for meat. It's not like hunters are hunting for starving kids in Africa. WE HUNT FOR SPORT NOT LIFE SURVIVAL.