the organizers they sent out as a replacement for the mesh are fine, if it was a flip over. the only straight across poles in the hub are the ones leading from the corner to the middle, at an upward angle, essentially eliminating a pie shaped piece of your shelter if you were to hang a coat from it. not to mention it hangs down 6-8 inches on its own, meaning if you installed it you'd have to duck under it. although nice on it's own, it is not a useable replacement for this hub. and they never acknowledged the smaller size, only said it was in place of the mesh. I've used mine a lot, and there are definitely applications where that 12" skirt would come in handy. if you bank it with good heavy slush from the holes, you don't need to worry about anchoring in <20 MPH wind. but with the shorter skirt, that becomes a little more difficult. I will be pushing for a replacement. I like to fish with friends and that extra 6" across would be really nice for elbow room/hole spacing.