Chuckster Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 That Young swings at the first pitch EVERY time? There was a game about a week ago where the pitcher had thrown something like 11 consecutive balls in a row and could not throw a strike to save his life.....until Young stepped to the plate. First pitch he pops out to the shortstop. I would like to see some statistics on how many pitches he has even seen this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdeLakeTom Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 Delmon Young delivered one of the four straight two-out singles in the third as part of a 3-for-4 day at the plate. He had one RBI and scored a run in the fifth inning when Nick Punto singled to left. .284 average....not that bad, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morris Posted July 2, 2008 Share Posted July 2, 2008 He's hitting well. I really don't care if there's not much power behind that swing. As long as he's driving in a few runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledNeck Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 yep Delmon batting .284 last year as a rookie hit .288Cuddyer is a career .269 hitter whose highest yearly avg was .284 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The J-Man! Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Young is a free swinger no doubt and does indeed swing at the first pitch more often than not. He is hitting the ball well right now, so I won't complain. I seem to remember another Twin who used to swing at the first pitch often and was also a free swinger...Kirby Puckett. In no way am I comparing their abilities, but it is not always a bad thing for players to swing at that first pitch. Vladamir Guerrero is another player who will swing at anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboni Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 There goes Sled on another Cuddyer rant. Rather have Garza back than Young, and Monroe can play left. Monroe is part time and is 3rd on the team in HRs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quackaddict9 Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 I remember seeing some list of batters who swing on the first pitch in %'s and Gomez/Young were in the top 5 and was around 40-50%, something like that. That was a few weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckster Posted July 3, 2008 Author Share Posted July 3, 2008 Im not sayin that he hasnt been productive. It seems like he can hold his own at the plate now and then. Although, I have read a lot of "trade Young" or "send down young, let Kubel play" posts the day after he goes 0-4, and many "hes not that bad" posts after he goes 2 or 3-3. Maybe its just me I guess but it just bothers me that he swings at the first pitch every single time. Think of all the advanced scouting that goes on, do you think a pitcher is going to throw him something decent to hit on the first pitch? Of course not, every pitcher that has half a brain has watched his last ten plate appearances before they start the series on video and start him off with a slider or curve low and away that he whiffs on 90% of the time, which puts him in the hole right away. If he would take a pitch now and then, he might even get something better to drive to the gap, or even over the fence! Or maybe even draw a walk now and then (which is really stretching it) I guess maybe it doesnt matter to some guys such as Vlad who can handle a pitch in the dirt and park it 15 rows up into the left field bleachers, but I would hardly at this stage in the game compare him to an annual All-Star. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobber2400 Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Don't you have work to do today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledNeck Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Garza's own teammates dont like him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morris Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 Garza has a bad attitude. I'm glad we don't have him anymore. I like the way our staff is set up anyway.I don't remember when it was exactly, but I remember Garza ripped the Twins for "not taking care of his injury" or some garbage like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The J-Man! Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 I completely understand Chuckster wanting to see Young take a few pitches, it would probably be good for him. It's like watching Mauer take the first pitch EVERY at bat. They always throw him a strike and you just want to see him crush the ball, but he never swings. I can't honestly complain about Mauer though, he's one of the best hitters in baseball. He must be doing something right.Time will tell on how the Garza/Young trade pans out. Garza is pitching well for Tampa and Young is on par with his season from last year. They are both young players who will get better. Our starting rotation, sans Livan, is doing a pretty good job lately.Bartlett has 11 errors this year already and his OBP is .299 (as of Thursday). We don't miss him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike morris Posted July 3, 2008 Share Posted July 3, 2008 See I don't understand why people think we would be better off with Bartlett. He may cover just a little more range than Harris does, but Harris is usually more consistent with routine plays and also a more consistent hitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboni Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Garza's own teammates dont like him Yeah, you have to like someone to have them on your team. Guy has been pretty good this season- I sure wouldn't want his numbers because he's a jerk. Ty Cobb- NOONE liked him, but I think I woulda took him on my team, guy played pretty good baseball. Not every player in the Majors is going to have Kirby Pucketts personality and have everyone like him. And again, I would rather have him back and they can have Delmon Young, and I would put Monroe in left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Young has 3 homers now! Hes coming around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledNeck Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Originally Posted By: SledNeckGarza's own teammates dont like him Yeah, you have to like someone to have them on your team. Guy has been pretty good this season- I sure wouldn't want his numbers because he's a jerk. Ty Cobb- NOONE liked him, but I think I woulda took him on my team, guy played pretty good baseball. Not every player in the Majors is going to have Kirby Pucketts personality and have everyone like him. And again, I would rather have him back and they can have Delmon Young, and I would put Monroe in left. Gomez .270 Cuddyer .252 Young .289Kubel .267Monroe .218Torii Hunter .271Manny Ramirez .280Grady Sizemore .264Vladimir Guerrero .285I rest my case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledNeck Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 Garza 3.47 (plays on best team in MLB)Blackburn 3.78Baker 3.65Slowey 3.47Silva 5.85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted July 5, 2008 Share Posted July 5, 2008 I wouldn't consider trading Young for Garza. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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