JBMasterAngler Posted September 20, 2018 Share Posted September 20, 2018 Doesn’t look like the future is very bright for the wolves. Butler’s choices in teams are interesting, to say the least. None of those teams have anything to offer that would benefit us. So, the alternative is to keep him for the season, and go to the playoffs as an 8th seed again. Then lose him, and suck again while we suffer through Wiggins’ contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimmz Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Butler isn't going to stick around. I'd be surprised if he isn't dealt before camp begins Monday. We don't have to trade him to the three (garbage) teams he requested. I, for one, hope he gets traded to a team that benefits the Wolves and not Butler. (I'm pretty upset he asks to be traded after a year that he cost us the chance of making a strong playoff push) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 Butler is a locker room problem and that is evident now. We just need to hope there is a team with assets that feel they can deal with his attitude and are willing to give us decent compensation. Then we need our knucklehead coach/gm to think about the franchise and not himself and really get whats best for the Twolves future and not this season alone! We have a good chip to deal. We have 2 players that will be hungry to lead this team and show the nay sayers that they can play at a high level and win!! (hopefully) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfy Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ozzie said: Butler is a locker room problem and that is evident now. We just need to hope there is a team with assets that feel they can deal with his attitude and are willing to give us decent compensation. Then we need our knucklehead coach/gm to think about the franchise and not himself and really get whats best for the Twolves future and not this season alone! We have a good chip to deal. We have 2 players that will be hungry to lead this team and show the nay sayers that they can play at a high level and win!! (hopefully) i agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rundrave Posted September 21, 2018 Share Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ozzie said: We just need to hope there is a team with assets that feel they can deal with his attitude and are willing to give us decent compensation. The problem is the Wolves have no leverage now in regards to trades. If Butler wanted out why did he wait so long, that's just going to make it even harder for him to get to the teams he wants to be traded to? He really left the Wolves in a bad predicament with the timing of all of this. They have to keep him at this point don't they? And man Thibs is as good as gone if they don't get anything in return. This quickly went to a real promising future to disaster. And that huge deal Wiggins got looks worse and worse by the day. The wolves cant build around that deal and Wiggins either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 They’re better off waiting until the trade deadline, where teams might be more willing to give up more. In theory, because it’s a contract year, Butler should put up good numbers, even if he doesn’t want to be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie Posted September 24, 2018 Share Posted September 24, 2018 I don't get the concept that we won't get anything in return for him. If you are using that theory look at Kawai Leonard...San Antonio seemed to get something for a guy that everyone knew was not gonna work with San Antonio and everyone said they would only get something from the Lakers but Toronto stepped up made a play and the word is that they may be the front runner on resigning him! Look at Paul George...he was in the same boat that he was not gonna resign with anyone and the Thunder took a chance and now they have him on the books for years to come cuz he changed his mind. Players in the NBA seem to change every month as to what they want to do. Get rid of Butler, get some good assets, and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted September 25, 2018 Author Share Posted September 25, 2018 I’m glad we got KAT locked up now. Whatever we get for Butler, hopefully it’s multiple pieces, as depth is going to be our major issue. Will Wiggins actually step up this year? Not likely, but I will continue to hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimmz Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I agree to that statement. Losing Butler sucks, but I think it'll work out for the wolves. If you look at what we should get in return for Butler vs giving up Lavine, Dunn, and Markennan in the trade, we're doing alright. No way we could have kept Lavine with his huge contract and potential further injuries and Dunn (who I like as a player) probly won't get better than he currently is. Markennan is the one I wish we still had, but we should be able to pull a couple young shooters and maybe a draft pick or veteran in this Butler deal. Time will tell.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smurfy Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 if Butler doesnt wanna play for the wolves.................. so be it. let him stay at home. he is under contract.................he dont play he dont get paid!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted October 17, 2018 Author Share Posted October 17, 2018 So, is Butler playing in the season opener? Has he even practiced, other than that one infamous time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie Posted October 17, 2018 Share Posted October 17, 2018 does he need to? Sounds like he put a whoopin on the boys in the one practice he showed up and played in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Getanet Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I have to admit, I only watched the fourth quarter and overall thought the team looked pretty good. But unless I missed it and he's hurt, can anyone explain how Okogie sat the bench the entire game? I know the knock on Thibs his entire career is that he's hard on rookies and doesn't play them much, but considering the Butler situation, is he that myopic on getting a W the first game of an 82 game season that he doesn't understand he needs to start developing players that will still be here after Butler's gone? Even if Butler never leaves, he has to start developing some depth. You can't tell me Okogie couldn't have been useful as a defensive replacement for a few minutes. Maybe I missed something and Okogie is hurt. But if not, Thibs lack of developing our bench is as egregious as his handling of the Butler situation so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimmz Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Okogie and KBD are both healthy, but sit due to Thibs having his head in a dark place. I sure hope they get some playing time tonight. Looking at the minutes given to Butler, Rose, and Tolliver, I doubt they'll play for awhile. Bummer, since they both had a good preseason. I can see Okogie developing into Butler 2.0 so why not play him while he can learn from 1.0? Rick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted October 20, 2018 Author Share Posted October 20, 2018 Wow did Butler look good lastnight! Saw a lot of things (particularly in the 4th quarter) that show this team is NOT very good without Butler. Apparently the fans have no ill will towards him, as they MVP chant was getting pretty loud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 meh~last night they were giving Rose an MVP chant too! In the first quarter!!! Okogie is a decent ball player and will get his time it seems. Rick 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 What is the rule change that is allowing all the all star game scores so far this season? I sure miss the NBA of the 80’s and 90’s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 shot clock reduces to 14 on an offensive rebound has sped up play but the way the refs are calling games, at a very tight game, not letting the defenders touch a guy has created a lot of players getting into foul trouble and not being so aggressive on the D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 Good win lastnight. Okogie took full advantage of Wiggins not playing! Which of course, is more proof that signing Wiggins was a terrible idea! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimmz Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Last nights game was fun to watch! Hopefully, we can keep that style of play and confidence. I really like what we've seen from Okogie thus far. It'd be nice if he can grow with Kat and Wiggins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IceHawk Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Great Game last night for sure was very enjoyable to watch.! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimmz Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 Awesome showing by MVP Rose last night! Very cool to see the team play like a team for once, guess we don't need Butler after all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie Posted November 1, 2018 Share Posted November 1, 2018 I agree that it was nice to see them come together and pull out a win without Jimmy. I really think they need to go back to Miami and tell them Josh Richardson, Whiteside, and a 1st round pick for Jimmy. Let's move on and get an asset that this team can use. With this trade listed we get a young upcoming player in Richardson, a rim protector in Whiteside, and a coveted 1st round pick that will land in the upper teens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgrimmz Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 I'm not a fan of Whiteside and his locker room drama, but I think most agree that is an excellent trade for the wolves. I'd rather have Bam Abedayo, but he's young and unproven Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzie Posted November 2, 2018 Share Posted November 2, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 1:56 PM, ozzie said: meh~last night they were giving Rose an MVP chant too! In the first quarter!!! Okogie is a decent ball player and will get his time it seems. After the game the other night maybe those chants weren't that far off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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