Fishinguy40 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Daughter called last night and said the car was running really bad. She could only go 10mph and dash lights lit up. Service traction control and reduced engine power.I drove out to where she was and plugged in a Bluetooth ELM327 code reader that works with my Android phone. The code P0068 - Throttle Position Correlation came up. No other codes. Naturally the car started and ran fine as I drove it back home. I suspect the TPS but understand that it could also be the MAF or MAP sensor too. I will disassemble the air intake and inspect for blockage and possible vacuum leaks.My question is, how can I determine which sensor it is if I don't find any vacuum leaks or other mechanical issue? There was data stored along with the code such as engine load, etc. I can't remember everything. And I cannot access that data now. I will have to reconnect to the car and pull the code again to see it. These Bluetooth ELM327 code readers allow you to view real time data but I'm not sure how to interpret much of it. Looking for some insight.Freeze Frame Data:Note the Evap System Pressure in Bold. Is that normal?Ambient Temp 37FAccelerator Pedal Position 15.29%Commanded Throttle Actuator 43.52%Barometric pressure 0.9279 AtmShort Term Fuel Trim Bank 1 13.28%Relative Throttle Position 29.41%Commanded Evap Purge 100%Absolute Load Value 30.98%Engine Coolant Temp 190FIntake Manifold Absolute Pressure 0.8983Vehicle Speed 56 MPHLong Term Fuel Trim Bank 1 17.18%Catalyst Temp Bank 1 1558FMass Air Flow 38.36 g/sAbsolute Throttle Position B 43.13%Calculated Engine Load 91.76%Command Equivalence Ratio 1.0 N/ATiming Advance 38.0Engine RPM 2308Throttle Position 43.13%Intake Air Temp 46FFuel System Status Closed Loop Using O2Evap System Vapor Pressure -76.4165 Atm *E-03Accelerator Pedal Position D 31.37%Fuel Level Input 37.64% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macgyver55 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Quote:Throttle Position 43.13%Accelerator Pedal Position D 31.37%Engine RPM 2308Were you revving the motor when you took these readings or driving down the road?If not, these would appear to be incorrect readings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Quote:Vehicle Speed 56 MPH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macgyver55 Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 Oops, missed that, I was looking at the one in bold and noticed the others close to it. Either way some of the other numbers dont really jive. like Calculated Engine Load 91.76% at 56 mph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott K Posted March 19, 2015 Share Posted March 19, 2015 This is the one that caught my eye. I would be looking for a plugged air filter, or a bad mafQuote:Calculated Engine Load 91.76% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy airjer W Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 isn't map sensor voltage low for the amount of throttle and rpm? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech~~ Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I have a 2009 Saturn Vue and had the same code about a month ago with the same damage control speed around 10mph and chugging issues. I always have a code reader in the SUV. Pulled into a gas station, through in a bottle of ISO and Injector cleaner. Cleared the code, started it up, let it idle for a few minutes and it has never come back yet? I have had these little motor hick ups on a few SUV's and did the same thing to them and have never taken one in to a shop to get fixed for anything. But it seems to work for me? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishinguy40 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 My daughter was driving the car when it happened. The freeze frame data was stored with the code. What readings don't look right? The air filter doesn't look bad but easy enough to change. Because it happened and hasn't happened since, I'm assuming a senor is going or something electrical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishinguy40 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 The code reader reads everything in engineering units not voltage. The manifold pressure is in atmosphere not voltage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishinguy40 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 After doing some more digging. The MAP pressure 0.89 atmospheres converts to 26.6 inches of mercury vacuum. Is that high? Seems vacuum should be 15 - 22 inches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leech~~ Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 My daughter was driving the car when it happened. The freeze frame data was stored with the code. What readings don't look right? The air filter doesn't look bad but easy enough to change. Because it happened and hasn't happened since, I'm assuming a senor is going or something electrical. I was driving mine at 60 mph and it didn't act up until I hit the off ramp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishinguy40 Posted March 20, 2015 Author Share Posted March 20, 2015 I left the Bluetooth device plugged in as I drove the car home and was able to achieve over 90% engine load easily when I was accelerating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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