MJ1657 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Posted this on here about a year ago but I didn't end up buying the gun. Thinking about it agsin but I can't decide which one.I'm set on the Savage 212 or 220. I currently shoot a 12 gauge benelli slug gun. The reason I would go to the 20 is for less recoil. My main concern is a clean efficient kill so if I have to sacrafice some extra recoil I have no issue with that. I sit on some field edges which provide the opportunity at some longer shots. Whats your guys thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Mj if you hit that deer in the vitals with a 20 ga it will go.down same as a 12 ga .You are still hitting them with a hefty chunk of bullet .A friend of mine hunt with a 20 ga has for 30 plus years and he fiesta regret it at all last year he purchased the savage in 20 ga and loves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skee0025 Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 If your not adverse to a single shot look in to an H&R ultra slug hunter. It may be a single shot but you can get one new for half the price of a savage. Everyone I've spoken to that has them or has shot them has nothing but great things to say. I'll be picking one up in 20 gauge within the next week or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farley Posted January 30, 2013 Share Posted January 30, 2013 Go with the 220. I almost bought one last year myself but picked up an 870 20 ga. with both rifled and field barrel instead. I wanted the open sights. Not sure if the 220 comes with them or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 212 and 220 do not have iron sights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerchJrkr Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Buy the 220. 3 rounds touching at 100 yards with Rem Accutips. I havent shot out to 200 yet but ive heard 4" groups. I've only dropped the hammer on one doe with it so far and she went about 60-70 yards and piled up, made a real nice hole.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawdog Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 I have heard one big complaint about the 220 and that is that the 20 gauge sabots they want you to shoot are hard to find. Great gun though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 212 and 220 do not have iron sights You could always have a gunsmith put sights on that barrel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PerchJrkr Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Hornady SST's are everywhere now days. The AccuTips are a little harder to find. krugerfarms had plenty of them before the season though. Why would you put iron sights on a tack driver? Put a scope on it and prepare to be amazed. Pretty impressed so far with my Vortex 3x9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 I don't want iron sights Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 Guess I took it wrong from the way you worded it. Another plus that this gun has it made the rifle of the year award. So that has got to say something for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom7227 Posted January 31, 2013 Share Posted January 31, 2013 At an advanced hunter ed class I went to years ago the claim was that the 20 gauge is more accurate than a 12. That may not be accurate any longer. But you asked about whether the force would be enough to be lethal. Absolutely. Best thing to do once you get the gun set up is to get a couple boxes of a couple different kinds of slugs and spend some time at the 25 yard range with a bench rest and see what works best for you. I would bet that you can dial that gun in to 3-4 inch patterns at 100 yards if you spend the time and money to work it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uffdapete Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I hunted SE MN with a 20 ga Mossberg youth with a rifled barrel/cantilever scope mount for 10 yrs and it did a fantastic job for me. I shot Remington Copper Solids cause that's what it shot best. Haven't kept up with the advances in Sabots but there are probably better rounds today. I also went with a 20 for lighter recoil. It was good for at least a dozen 1 shot kills out to 140 yds. If I was going to hunt with shotgun again I'd use the same set up.Nearly used it for deer after moving north but ended up buying a rifle cause we do encounter 200 yd shots occasionally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJ1657 Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 Guess I took it wrong from the way you worded it. Another plus that this gun has it made the rifle of the year award. So that has got to say something for it. I should have made that little more clear.I think I should have worded my whole post a little differently. I undertand that the 20 ga. will cleanly kill a deer.I guess my question is if the 12 ga. is superior to the 20 ga. enough to put up with the extra recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordie Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Is bigger better I think only the shooter can honestly answer that. In my opinion the only significant difference is the recoil,but the ballistics guys may tell you different Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96trigger Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 I have been researching this gun for a year now. I would buy the 220. Both seem to be great guns but the 220 seems to be more accurate at longer distances. One forum had a guy (a supposed professional gun tester) shooting 3.5 inch groups at 200 yards. It is hard to say whyit's more accurate. My best guess with 220 is that there is less recoil and maybe the loads fit that gun better. I just looked at a 212 last weekend they are a nice fitting gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom7227 Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 The drop of the slug beyond 150 yards is pretty steep. At 200 yards it is close to 12 inches. Check out this link or google shotgun slug ballisticshttps://www.google.com/search?q=shotgun+slug+ballistics&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=fcd&tbo=u&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=ydALUe2QBNH8yAHQyICYBw&ved=0CEcQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=745#imgrc=LyFN3sekhPcgrM%3A%3BOQv3H_lsI84VtM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fi285.photobucket.com%252Falbums%252Fll60%252Fplasticexperts%252FTrajectoryChart-3andahalf600pix.jpg%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fslugshooting.accountsupport.com%252Fforums%252Fviewtopic.php%253Ff%253D8%2526t%253D952%3B600%3B432 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackPineGuy Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I like 20 gauges a lot. For slugs i prefer an auto loading 12 gauge, but ive shot plenty deer with my 870 20gauge. I like 20 gauges to for pheasents, sum hunters would shun me for that but hey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoaru99 Posted February 15, 2013 Share Posted February 15, 2013 I guess my question is if the 12 ga. is superior to the 20 ga. enough to put up with the extra recoil. That's too open ended to answer. What is your measure of "superior"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96trigger Posted February 16, 2013 Share Posted February 16, 2013 The hornady HSOforum has the droop for the 20 gauge sst at 8.2 inches at 200 yards, that is sighted in dead on 150. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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