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two I can't ID


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Sorry no pics as they were too crafty for me.

1. small finch size bird. yellow head with a deep gold cheek. never seen before ever.

2. like a miniature oriole but deeper color, not bright orange more like a bronze or deep orange belly and such.

Sorry about the no pics.

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boy that's pretty close, if anything the gold on the cheek of the bird I saw was a bit smaller and a define oval below the eye. And the other bird is not a redstart. Picture like a brown headed cowbird but put the brown on the belly and make it more of a bronze not a brown. It is at my oranges and jelly just like the orioles. Im puzzled.

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Hmmmm...now what you're describing sounds more like an orchard oriole. They're smaller than the Baltimore and generally where the Baltimore is orange, the orchard oriole is more of a chocolate brown. They're around and seem to be becoming more common than they once were.

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