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A few years back I was invited to trout fish on bad medicine with 2 guys i hadnt fished with b4, I smoke, and after the first smoke out in the boat, I gave it a flick in the lake, they instantly reeled up, started the motor and made me pick it out of the lake, I felt pretty low at that time, and at the same time thinking whats the big deal.
well those guys have tought me well. now I do my best to not let it happen in my boat.
I recently was in a local tourny and id say that half smoked. if, half of them smoked a halfpack while out and fliked them in the lake, that would be close to 500 butts in the lake, in 7 hrs,.. like the comercial says, "knoledge is contagious", im just spreading the infection... what do you all do??

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I am a non-smoker and this is one of my pet peeves. I am pretty sure my bad back has come from picking up cigarette buts.

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I'm a smoker who knows I should stop but it is one of my pet peeves seeing butts floating, on the ground etc. I will have an empty pop can for my butts and if no can I'll toss the cherry in the water and put the butt in my pocket. I see no difference to throwing butts to tossing household gargage out the window, in the lake etc. I almost lost a chuck of my lake property to a cig. A friend and his oldest boy and friends stopped by to visit and I gave them a tour of the property. On the return loop we came across a very small fire. It turns out his boy and friends smoked a cig there and tossed the butt but did not stomp it out. It took only a few minutes to start a small fire. I would hate to think what would have happened if we hadn't walked by there by chance. I believe I'ld be looking at a treeless landscape without my 100 year old cedar trees.

Let's all be good smokers out there and don't litter.

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I do not smoke myself but there is a pop bottle in there all summer long for butts. I don't like to see the butts floating in the lake. My mother was the hardest to convince that they belong in the garbage not they lake. Knowledge is contagious. Fish on.

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I don't want to see your butts in the lake anymore than you'd want to see my pop can. As you pointed out, just 'one' butt ends up being a lot more very quickly. It sounds like they did a good job making you realize 'trash is trash'.
I always keep some kind of trash bag on board. A cooler does a great job of holding empties. And if it blows out (like that crawler lid), hopefully I can get it before it sinks. I don't want to spoil it for the next person.
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I do not smoke and I hate cigarettes! I have an ashtray by my front gate and people still throw their butts in my driveway. So, my boat is just like my house and my truck - nobody and I mean NOBODY smokes in any of them.

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I have a simple solution, just QUIT smoking!

If you ask me, I think it is a filthy, disgusting habit.

I think they should bump the price if smokes to $20 a pack, this would solve all the problems with littering butts.

Just my .02... smile.gif

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Skeets I agree with you but I don't think it would help. I use to work at a convenience store and people that could not afford it were smoking 3-4 packs a day. One kid was complaining because his family did not have a decent car and I showed him on paper that between his mother, himself, and his 15 year old sister (which the mother was buying for) were smoking almost $600.00 per month. But they are still smoking. Hope they are saving up for the cancer surgery.

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Skeets,
As a former smoker there is no "simple solution".
Some people think fishing is a disgusting habit.
Raising the price would just increase crime.(Yes, it's that addictive.)

I'm still haunted by it from time to time. I know this isn't what smokers want to hear but it's a constant battle. It's just that the battles are very brief and easy to win the longer you quit.

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If you let the offendor see you pick up their butt, they'll clean up their act. My boy and I fish a local spillway, and the locals leave it N A S T Y !!!! Not just mono and Eagle Claw sleeves, but empty liquor bottles, beer cans, etc, etc, etc,.
We clean up the shore. We bring down a five gallon bucket, and when people see a 4-year old kid is being a better outdoorsperson than they are, it's a kick to watch 'em all bend over to pick up whatever they tossed down and pocket it. When I find tackle while we're doin' it, I make a point of tellin' the boy, loud and clear, that I made a little of my money back. Most people know better, they just need to be reminded now & again.

Oh, I smoke, and if I'm on shore, they go in my boot, and if I'm in the boat, they go in that nasty puddle near the leaky plug. I believe Mother Nature is watchin', and if I don't respect her water, she'll keep the fishies at home.

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My wife smokes and I don't. When we're out fishing or in the woods, she brings a plastic pop bottle with a little pop still in it for her butts. If she forgets that, she pinches out the butt and sticks it in her pocket (even when she's wearing one of my coats!!!) Can't say I enjoy reaching into the pockets weeks later to find the stinky unexpected butts, but it beats chucking them in the water or on the forest duff.

Congrats to litter-conscious buttsters everywhere!

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Here is the simple solution to the cig butts, pop cans, propane tanks and all the other **** that either gets left on the ice or seen floating in the water.

You had room to pack it in, so you must have room to pack it out.

I personally try to take one more piece of garbage out with me than what I brought in. If everybody did that it wouldn't take to long to clean it up.

Just my .02.

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I hear what your saying Minneman. It was explained to me at an early ade that it take like 17 years for the butt to break down,
I am a smoker. I hate seeing butts scattered around anywhere but especially in the outdoors. I constantly have pockets that reek from butts. But that is better than leaving them behind.
I was searched at the border this year and the customs guy reached in my pocket a got a handful of butts, he jerks his hand out and tell me I need a portable ashtray, But at least I'm not throwing on the ground.

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Being in the military it's old habit to "field strip" my cigs. Knock off the fire and place it in your pocket. I have used cig butts for ear plugs while target shooting or working with power tools. I guess they come in handy for some things other than killing a guy. smile.gif
I always keep an ashtray or a large can in my boat. At times I'll have a cigarette, chew, and cigar all going at once! Yeah, I like my tobacco! I don't seem to have many problems with mosquitos when fishing for some reason. I should start hanging strips of meat off my hat when smoking and fishing, by the end of the day I'd have smoked jerky! grin.gif

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I think smokers don't even realize that the butts aren't even environmentally friendly.
I would love to be a police officer and pullover a motorist for flinging a cig butt out their window. Cite them for polluting. And lecture them about the potential of starting grass fires when it is dry. Maybe a fine will make them think twice. Dog walkers have to clean up the waste by carrying a doo doo bag. Then smokers should carry a butt bag.

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Wow...this topic hits home. I absolutely dispise cigarettes.....and then to see them floating in the lake or have 15 next to an old ice hole.....ick!!! I wish I could puke on cue....especially ice fishing....when someone throws his cigarette next to the hole, I could walk over and vomit in his pail.....bet we would have a confrontation...but maybe he would learn something.

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Great topic!! Being a guide, it's hard sometimes to break it to people, but just starting this year when people ask if I have any rules for the boat I tell them they can smoke but no cherries on the carpet and no butts in the lake!!

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I buddy taught me a lesson along time ago "no butts in the water". A friend of mine threw one in and I told him he only gets one warning and then no more access to fishing from a boat. I think that worked out pretty well!


Good Fishin'...

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Minneman Congrats! On getting the monkey off your back ( Feb 02 for me and I aint felt better) smile.gif

Its everyones right to smoke, I dont agree with smoking bans unless it is by the proprieter and not city Govt. but being disrespectfull is all the same.

When I smoked out fishing, I had a film container that I would put my dressed butts in. I never liked the smell of butts in my pocket eww frown.gif.

As for icefishing? Its disgusting to see and area littered with beer cans and butts not to mention all the other wrappers from the pigs that are there to have a party and not fish.

My home ----No Smoking I made a sign for the front door "The Butt Stops Here!!

My lake place NO smoking inside only ouside.

My boat
I will allow it if there is respect to me my boat and the environment.

Smoke fish. It tastes and smells better and its better for you. grin.gif
I would trade a Catfish for a Camel any day.

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I have the unfortunate habit. IN response to the topic, I get grief all of the time when my beloved cleans out the bottom of the washer and dryer!lol

When I can, they go in the pocket!

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This is one of my biggest pet peeves. Almost every day I see someone throw a butt out the window of their car. DO THEY THINK THE WORLD IS THEIR PERSONAL ASH TRAY????

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I couldn't figure out how I had burn spots in the carpet of my Pro-V until I saw my brothers cigarette cherry fall on the carpeting and proceed to burn another spot!
Well I just about blew a fuse when he said I didn't do that!
And to top it off when anchoring the boat from the front of the boat, the smokers always sit in the front and I always fish in the rear of the boat. So I always get the full brunt of cigarette smoke being downwind.
Man nothing like fresh air fishing in an northern Minnesota lake and coughing!
And my brother wonders why I don't invite him to go fishing with me.

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