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I've been a Fireline man since I heard of it. I have no need to go stronger than 6lb. test and use their lightest (4lb. test, one pound diameter)when pan fishing. This stuff is strong and sensitive and saves on lures when snagged. The only drawback is the price, but I think it's worth it. The only thing I use mono for anymore is fishing crappies in river trees--too many break offs for that kind of dough. If you want to test the difference in sensitivity, put mono on one spool and Fireline on another (same rod) and swithch them out using a crankbait. I realize you don't need the feel as much with a crank, but you'll notice it much more that way. It really pays off when finese fishing.

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6 pound trilene xt is the strongest mono that i have found. it dosen't get knots easley either(not counting the one on your hook).

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I don't mean to start a debate on the merits of Fireline, because I realy like it for certain situations. However, I will not use it on spinning rods used in casting situations (i.e. jigworm fishing for bass). I don't think it casts as good as mono, and I can't break the habit of setting the hook so hard that I darn near go airborne. I've straightened some light wire hooks on jigs with it. However, I really love Fireline (or SpiderWire Fusion) in heavy cover. The stuff slices through pads and other crud when dragging a fish back to the boat. I'll stick with 8lb. Berkley XT on spinning rods.

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Hey guys, I have to agree with everyone here. I use both types of line, fire and XT.
They have their strength's and weaknesses. I like the mono for slipbobber fishn and the fire for everyything else. I caught a 20# northern on 14# fireline with no problems. The fish was hooked way down by the gills, but no cut line like mono.

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I fish mostly wally's (as if you can't tell by the moniker), and my preferred technique is jigging. But I also rig and slip bobber fish. I have found that XL is like trying to set the hook with a rubber band and XT tends to wrap around the rod tip when jigging. I was given a spool of Rapala tough and Rapala finesse, both were like fishing with baling wire ( coils come off the reel and just lie on the water like a spring). Tried Sensithin, snapped it like a bullwhip the first time I set on a wally over 2lbs (this was 6lb line). I agree with the fireline in certain situations especially when trolling crank baits or fishing at night. In winter, I also like the fact that it is as coil resistant at 0 degrees it is at 100 degrees. However I am often in situations where I am concerned about visibility (wallys living in clear water like Mille Lacs and White Bear). The best all around line for me Stren MAGNATHIN, 6lb. Doesn't coil in the summer, doesn't coil too much in the winter, enough stretch that it doesn't snap when setting on a 8lb wally yet stiff enough to really bury the hook in the tough mouth of the same fish. One winter and one summer rig with fireline, one winter crappie rig with lighter line, one muskie/monsternorthern rig with heavier line, EVERYTHING ELSE has 6lb MAGNATHIN.

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Yes I would have to say that fireline is the best all around line for me and I kind of like the spiderwire too. The trilene XT is also a great mono line.

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I have alway been a big believer in all the Berkley Trilene lines. We switched one winter to a Stren line and I will NEVER use it again. We have always used either the Trilene XL or XT depending on what we were fishing for. Recently we started spooling up with Trilene's Premium Strength (Tournament Strength, gold box) line. It is strong, thin, very castable because of low memory, and is photochromatic. All around it is a good line and I have no complaints. Seems that Berkley has the advantage here with all the posts, they have a good product. Good luck to all!

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Hey I was just curious as to what everyone's favorite all around fishing line is. Lets hear some feed-back frome everybody!

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15 lb fireline!!!, I use it for everything, can't stand using mono since I switched, won't ever go back!!

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MAXIMA is the strongest mono ever made. It out performs trilene or stren hands down. It has superior abrasion resistance and the knot strength is incredible. It is the only mono I have spooled on my reels when money is on the line.
As far as braided line goes Power Pro is the best I have used. It dosen't fray like fireline, plus it cast like a dream.

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does anybody know how reliable red cajun line is? i heard that the color attracts walleyes. but i don't want to snap all my lures off with it.

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I am a Berkley fan overall. Different lines for a different need is a sure thing and they have the options needed to fish effectively.

Power Pro is very good and the fray factor is a very good reason why it is favored by many pros. The castability and cold weather performance of Power Pro line leaves something to be worked on.

As in most things and especially with fishing line one thing is a trade off to gain another characteristic; one line can not do it all just yet.

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For bass fishin, I love my P-Line smile.gif I would say about 1/3 the pros in the tourny I fish use it; its good stuff. Otherwise Berkley is used on my reels. Down with Stren!!

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Spiderwire super mono or Berkley sensation. Both of these lines offer low memory excellent castablity and are abrasion restent.

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how about a line that you were totally disatisfied with? i tried some of gander(squander)mountains, guide series line this spring. i bought 10 pound and 6 pound test. both performed great the first weekend, in strength and castability. low memory etc., but after a couple of weeks in the boat, the lighter line was junk. i allways test pull my knots when tieing on new. just junk. i am going to take whats left and let them throw it away. the 10 lb i haven't had a problem with. yet. keep a firm grip on your jigglestick--------jigglestick---------

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The worst line I've ever used was eagle claw 10# test. The knot strength was terrible and I lost several fish because of it. That was the last time I ever went for the bargain line to save some money. I have found that for the most part you get what you pay for.

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FireLine is #1 with me but when it comes to slip bobbers it seems to get tangled. On my bobber rods I started to use Berkley Sensation. That stuff is tuff and limp. I tried Berkley Iron silk and took it off right away. I even called berkley and they said it has to be used for a while in order to be limp, A bunch of dump if you ask me. I also use vanish for all my lindy's and Xl for spinners.

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I really like Silver Thread for mono and a spider wire for the power braids. My absolute favorite was Fenwick flexline. It's getting harder to find these days but it's really good stuff.

I really lost confidence in Trilene Xl after they changed the formula a couple years ago. Although I think they fixed it. I couldn't believe how bad it was when the "new" stuff came out.

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A few years ago, I would have told you that I thought the Fireline was horse####. But, during an outing on Lake Oahe, where we were drifting/slow trolling bottom bouncers, I was badly outfished by a guy in our boat using fireline. he swore by it. Not being too proud to admit defeat, I relined a reel with the stuff that evening and what a difference it made!! I felt - and caught - many more fish the next day (walleye). I still prefer mono for slip bobbering and for panfish, and I don't care for fast trolling with the fireline, but each line has their place. As for the 'bargain' mono, I haven't had a problem with the cheaper (Eagle Bend, for example) mono...though I do tend to reline all my reels every spring, and I will reline the ones I use more often during mid-season.

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Personally-- I'm a straight Mono fisherman for a couple of reasons: Cost, Sensitivity, and if you get hung up you can just "snap" it. Hard to do with spiderwire-- which is also dang near impossible to cut as well without a really good pair of stanless steel siscors or a hacksaw wink.gif . Cost-- well a spool of Trilene goes for what... $5? Whereas your superlines cost twice that per spool. Plus.. I'm not big into the "Nascar" type fishing-- where the goal is to get the sharpest, chemically sharpened hook; reel with the highest gear ratio money can buy, and super strength line-- so you can whip in 5 lb bass like there's nothing to it. Personally I like to hear the scream of a reel. Hooking a 3lb bass on an Ultralight rod with 2 or 4lb mono is great fun-- actually requiring skill as you do have to worry about the line snapping. Sensitivity and the "invisiblity" makes mono better for sight picky fish like Walleyes or Trout; that may spook if they can "see" the line. But I use it for all around fishing. I like Trilene XL as my fav choice-- it's reasonably priced and has comparable breaking strengths to stiffer monos. I've had less tangles with this as it comes off the spool easier. I think mono's are a good compromise between the low vis, low breaking strength of Flourocabon and high vis, high break strength braided "superlines" It's nice not having to worry about what type of line to put on according to what fish you plan to catch. Mono works on everything.

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Strait mono here too, Basically 4 lb. test Trilene XL on all my ultralights for most of my fishing (walleye, bass, northern, trout, crappies), and 12 lb. test on my larger baitcaster for big pike and muskie, and salmon. I can't remember the last time I lost a fish due to line (or more often knot) failure, I reline once in the spring, and midsummer if needed.

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The basspastor is glad to see many Fireline Fanatics in the congregation. It seems not so long ago that I was a lone Fireline apologist. People told me how bad it was and how it's applications were limited. I spool it 98% of the time. Anytime you need sensitivity or need to rip through the grass Fireline is the line. The 1/4 Fireline is the best kept secret in panfishing. I have never been seriously outfished by another in the boat using mono even jig worming or texas rigging plastic.

I do use some Vanish/Floro for leader. Jigging eyes, 6lb Flo. Green Trilene XT Thanks to Walleye Pro Chis Gillman for that revelation. I also like 20lb Flo. Green XT for Lake MI Fall Stream Salmon Combat Fishing. Other people can see it in those close quarters and you can horse the fish some.

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Pastor,

Do you just use a swivel clamp at the end of your fire line to attach your mono leader to?

Thanks!

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I am very happy with the Power Pro on two of my spinning rods and my Muskie setup.

Although, I still like mono on the rest of my rods. I like the green and clear XT Trilene, but recently I have been disappointed with the performance with it. One day I managed to break off 3 spinner baits while casting 10lb test. Luckily, I recovered all the spinners. I feel the quality of XT is getting worse every year, and have heard similiar reports from other people of unusual "break" incidents.

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Juggs,

Sounds like a classic case of line twist. Could be anyone or combination of factors; Defective batch of line, improperly spooled line, overfilled spool, reeling in while fish is taking drag, twist due to lure or bait action, excessive or too little tension on line, and "memory" twist. I would recommend respooling with a good quality line, taking care to ensure that the filler spool is laying flat, and reel on about a dozen turns with light tension, allow some slack, if the line is twisting, flip over the spool in the opposite direction of the twist and start over, this is important to stop the twist from "telegraphing" as you spool on more line. Do not over or under fill the spool. Always use swivels with any lure or bait that may rotate (large leeches can be notorious for this). When a fish is taking out line, stop reeling or the line will become twisted. Minor twisting will nearly always occur with just about all spinning reels over time, its just the nature of the design. Look for reels with oversized spools and large line rollers. Minor twists can be "ironed out" by repeatedly pulling the line between thumb and forefinger and appling some pressure, for major twists cut off that portion of line or respool. Good luck!

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      The fall trout release will be Oct. 27th at 10 am; 1000 trout will be released with 100 trout tagged for prizes. Rainbow Trout - Excellent: Two weeks to go until the release  Iowa River (Columbus Junction to Mississippi River)
      NOAA is forecasting the Iowa River to still be above flood stage through the end of next week. Lake Belva Deer
      Still plenty of water leaving the lake. Water clarity is almost back to normal. Water temperature is in the low to mid 50's. Black Crappie - Fair: Cappies are sticking to the deeper water; drift the lower end of the lake. Start in 16 to 18 feet of water and work your way into shallower water until you find fish. Largemouth Bass - Slow: Picking up a few bass in the more shallow water along the rocks and gravel bottom areas.   Lake Darling
      Water level is still about 6 inches above normal. Water clarity continues to improve. Water temperature is in the low 50's.Bluegill - Fair: On the less windy days, anglers are catching some nice bluegills in 5 to 8 feet of water around the habitat. Black Crappie - Slow: Anglers are starting to once again catch some crappies, but they have moved back out to deeper water (10-12 feet). Largemouth Bass - Fair: Anglers are catching some decent bass in fairly close to shore; use a little flash to the lure with the water clarity. Lake of the Hills
      The fall trout release of 2000 trout is scheduled for Oct. 20th at 10:30 am; there will be 200 tagged trout for prizes. Rainbow Trout - Good: Since the river is still going to be above flood stage, why not try a little trout fishing this Saturday?  Lost Grove Lake
      Bluegill - Fair: Get back into the standing flooded timber out of the wind; look for fish to be in 6 to 8 feet of water. Maybe a little shallower on the north side when it’s sunny. Black Crappie - Fair: Still are out in deeper water; they should start moving in shallower if the weather calms down. Skunk River (Coppock to Mississippi River)
      The river is off the boat ramp parking lot at Brighton and continues to drop. Level is still above flood stage. Wilson Lake
      The fall trout release is scheduled for Oct. 27th at noon; 1000 trout released with 200 tagged for prizes. Rainbow Trout - Good: One week to go!  For more information on the above lakes and rivers, call the Lake Darling Fisheries Office at 319-694-2430. Central Park Lake
      The lake is full after the renovation project; fingerling fish have been stocked.  Coralville Reservoir
      The lake level is at 711' (normal pool is 683.4') on 10/18. This is the crest height; the lake is predicted to slowly start falling after the weekend. Diamond Lake
      The lake is at normal level, but is still a little muddy. Minnows are not allowed here. Bluegill - Fair: Use small worms or jigs tipped with worms. Black Crappie - Fair: Anglers are catching fish off the jetties. Jigs tipped with worms work best. Most fish are 8-9 inches.    Kent Park Lake
      The lake is currently drained for a lake restoration project.  Lake Macbride
      The motor restriction is off; any sized motor may be used at no-wake speed (5 mph). Water temperatures have been in the mid 50's. The fish cleaning station at the primitive campground has been shut down. Black Crappie - Fair: Use jigs or minnows over brush or rock. There are a lot of 12 inch fish right now. Walleye - Fair: Troll crankbaits in 8-14 feet of water. The shallow water bite should pick up along windblown rock especially towards evening. Wiper (Hybrid Striped Bass) – Fair: Try topwater baits early and late then troll during the day.  Pleasant Creek Lake
      The lake is still about 1 feet low. The fish cleaning station is closed. White Bass – Fair. Wiper (Hybrid Striped Bass) – Fair. Bluegill - Fair: Fish along weed lines in 7-9 feet of water. For more information, contact the Lake Macbride Fisheries Station at 319-624-3615.   Lake Keomah
      Bluegill - Fair: Use small jigs tipped with live bait near shore and around the fishing jetties. Black Crappie - Fair: Try a jig tipped with a minnow around deep structure. Try different depths until you find active fish. Channel Catfish - Fair: Use stink bait or chicken liver. Largemouth Bass - Fair: Cast the shoreline with spinnerbaits or crankbaits. Try a rubber worm or a crawdad imitation around the fishing jetties and along the dam.  Lake Miami
      Largemouth Bass - Fair: Cast crankbaits or spinnerbaits around the cedar tree piles and the fishing jetties. Try also rubber worms or other plastic along the rip-rapped shorelines and in the cedar tree piles. Bluegill - Fair: Use a chunk of night crawler along the fishing jetties or around the cedar tree piles. Black Crappie - Fair: Try jig and minnow combinations around the cedar tree piles.  Lake Sugema
      The south boat ramp off of Highway 2 has been reopened. The north ramp is now closed due to a construction project.  Largemouth Bass - Fair: Cast the shorelines with crankbaits and spinnerbaits. Use crawdad imitations along the rip-rapped shorelines and the fishing jetties.  Black Crappie - Slow: Try different depths with minnows and jigs until you find active fish. Drift or use a slip bobber and a minnow. Bluegill - Fair: Try live bait tipped on a small jig around the shorelines and fishing jetties. Keep moving until you find active fish. Walleye - Slow: Use a nightcrawlers rig or a jig and minnow combination along the dam.  Lake Wapello
      Channel Catfish - Fair: Use chicken liver or night crawlers; look for areas with some water flow. Largemouth Bass - Good: Cast spinnerbaits or crankbaits around the cedar tree piles. Try crawdad imitations along the rip-rapped shorelines. Bluegill - Fair: Cast small jigs tipped with a chunk of night crawler around the aquatic vegetation. Black Crappie - Fair: Drift or troll jigs tipped with a minnow in 6-10 feet of water.  Ottumwa Park Pond South
      Trout will be stocked on Friday, Oct. 26th at 11 a.m. Rathbun Reservoir
      The current lake level is 912.07 msl. Normal operating elevation is 904.0 msl. The lake has risen over 6 feet since last week, so be aware of floating debris. Lake Rathbun has zebra mussels, so make sure to properly drain, clean, and dry equipment before transporting to another water body. Channel Catfish - Fair: Use night crawlers or chicken liver in coves or areas with some water running into the lake. White Crappie - Fair: Try minnows around structure. Look for submerged trees and stumps.. Wiper (Hybrid Striped Bass) - Fair: Troll crankbaits along rocky shorelines and around rock piles. Follow the gulls as they will be where the schools of hybrid striped bass are feeding. Try also vertically jigging spoon baits around rock piles. Walleye - Slow: Use night crawler rigs or jig and minnows around rock piles and submerged points.  Red Haw Lake
      Largemouth Bass - Good: Cast the shorelines using rubber worms or spinnerbaits. Black Crappie - Fair: Use tube jigs along the shorelines; try tipping the jig with a minnow . Bluegill - Fair: Use small jigs tipped with live bait along the shorelines and around the fishing jetties. Channel Catfish - Fair: Try night crawlers or chicken liver around the fishing jetties and the outer edge of the lily pads.  The district includes Mahaska, Lucas, Wayne, Monroe, Appanoose, Wapello, Davis and Van Buren counties. Contact the Rathbun Fish Hatchery at 641-647-2406 with questions about fishing in south central Iowa.   Mississippi River Pool 16 Fishing Reports
      Tailwater stage at Lock and Dam 15 in Davenport is 16.21 feet and has been falling this past week. Flood stage for Lock and Dam 15 is 15 feet. Many of the boat ramps are inaccessible due to the high water. The ramps at Marquette St, Credit Island, Clark's Ferry, Shady Creek, and Fairport are all under water. Fishing has been slow with the high-water conditions.  Mississippi River Pool 17
      Tailwater stage is 16.92 feet at Lock and Dam 16 in Muscatine and has been falling this past week. Flood stage at Lock and Dam 16 is 15 feet.The ramps at Big Timber and Kilpeck are closed due to high-water. Fishing has been slow.  Mississippi River Pool 18
      Tailwater stage is 19.19 feet at Lock and Dam 17 above New Boston and is falling. Flood stage is 15 feet. The Toolsboro landing is closed due to high water. The Hawkeye Dolbee ramps will be underwater. The Ferry Landing is closed. Fishing has been slow with the high-water conditions.  Mississippi River Pool 19
      Tailwater stage is 15.26 feet at Lock and Dam 18 above Burlington and is falling. Flood stage is 10 feet. Fishing has been slow with the high water conditions. River stage is still above flood stage throughout the pools. River levels have been falling this past week. Most boat ramps are under water due to the flooding conditions. Fishing has been slow with the high water conditions. If you have questions on fishing Pools 16-19, contact the Fairport Fish Hatchery at 563-263-5062.
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