JBMasterAngler Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 If cabrera is willing to sign for the league minimum, I'd say he's coming back, otherwise it looks like he's gone. I was all for keeping him until we made this trade, so if he goes I won't be upset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave2 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 But, in my opinion, if you don't keep the other guys you had last year then you are not upgrading at all. You are just trading 2 guys for 1. I have my doubts now about Crede being able to ever play a full productive season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigger Here Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Crede is a free agent, we won't resign him again, so he's gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor_guy Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Crede Will not be back. He was only on a one year deal. I would put O-C in the "Maybe" list. We will see how the rest of the off season works out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B. Amish Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 i could see us signing crede again to another one year incentive deal. besides, where else is he going to go? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TR21 Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Crede isn't even in the mix next year. Valencia, last year at AAA, will be given every opportunity to play third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMasterAngler Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Yeah, I wouldn't waste any time and money on crede. I'm fine with tolbert/harris playing 3rd, and hope for valencia to pan out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigger Here Posted November 9, 2009 Share Posted November 9, 2009 Hope the twins make a push for chone figgins, if valencia don't pan out at 3rd play figgins there, if he does play figgins at 2nd. Would have to give up our first round pick since he is a type A free agent. Move punto back to utility role. Also heard Gardenhire say wants Cabrera for 2nd base and won't mind playig Punto at 3rd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Dave2 Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 i could see us signing crede again to another one year incentive deal. besides, where else is he going to go? Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledNeck Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Does this mean that we are hanging onto Delmon Young?! You talk about a guy who goes only half speed, Delmon is that guy. halfspeed had a better batting avg than Cuddyer, and for 1/7th the salary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudcutter Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I'd rather see the Twins sign OC and let Crede go elsewhere. OC is a stud in the clutch, thou getting a tad old. His HR agst the Tigers in the playoff was huge. I know it's not likely, but keeping OC will help the TWins. Crede is a train wreck of inujuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledNeck Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Crede lacks the toughness to be a Twin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishyguy Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Originally Posted By: fishingalex Does this mean that we are hanging onto Delmon Young?! You talk about a guy who goes only half speed, Delmon is that guy. halfspeed had a better batting avg than Cuddyer, and for 1/7th the salary Really?!?!?!? You still aren't trying to trying to find a way to say Delmon had a better year or is a better ballplayer (at this point) than Cuddyer, are you? If you are at least acknowledge the other stats that Cuddyer led in. You know the ones like RBI, HR, OBP, SLG, OBPS. We would have beed 5-10 games back at the end of the year withour Cuddyer. Delmon had a good 10 game run at the end, otherwise was pretty pedestrian with his stats. Outfielders that hit .280 with a dozen home runs are a dime a dozen. The only reason Delmon doesn't make the big $$$ is he is not yet eligilble for FA. Maybe we should get rid of Morneau too. He makes big money and I am sure we can find a first baseman who bats .280+ without any significant power for cheap. I think his name is Doug and used to play for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledNeck Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 Morneau hits .300, why should we trade him for someone with cuddy's BA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelmsdawg Posted November 10, 2009 Share Posted November 10, 2009 I don't get why most seem down on young...in my humble baseball opinion he has much more upside than gomez. I think everyone forgets how young he still is and he didn't have much time in the minors either. With gogo gone I think he improves vastly with regular playing time. During the last couple months he raised his average from 240 to upside 280. Work on his D a little and he'll be stud, he was a #1 draft pick for a reason. O cab at second would be nice if he wasn't way too expensive (A's were paying part of his salary and it was only the last couple months that the twins had to boot) and I'm still hoping alexi steps up...he was my biggest disappointment in 09Zelmsdawg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboni Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 i could see us signing crede again to another one year incentive deal. besides, where else is he going to go? Retirement home???? He gets hurt getting the newspaper off his front doorstep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SledNeck Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Look for Young to have a very solid year next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishyguy Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 I am one of the guys down on Delmon Young. His best year was 4 years ago in his rookie season. Since then his numbers have dropped in power and average. Not exactly a good sign when you are talking about a player who's biggest asset is upside. Add in questionable heart and hustle and I think you can make a case for being a little concerned about him panning out. Someone said a few posts back that if he worked on his defense he would be a stud. That is true if he also gets consistency, especially with his power numbers. I guess you could say Gomez or Punto would also be studs if they could hit. Either way, you put a guy in the lineup you kind of need him to catch, throw and hit. If he can't manage to do all three, he better be exceptional at one of them. Delmon is not exceptional at any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PierBridge Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 Another solid take FG!Look for Young to have a very solid year next season. I really hope so Sled!But when you have the worst strike-out to walk ratio in baseball and your on base percentage is lower than Nick Punto's along with the obvious defense deficiency's. A very solid year is asking a ton!Go Delmon its a make or break year for ya! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooter Posted November 11, 2009 Share Posted November 11, 2009 How much playing time did Gomez get with the Twins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishingalex Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 When I was at Spring Training this year, Delmon hit a duck snort that would have gone for a double with a little hustle but he was content with a single. He was then given the steal sign that he ignored. Gardy exploded in the dugout and hollered at him if he wanted to run or not. Needless to say, Young never went out in the field after that half inning, nor did he play the next day. Makes a fan appreciate the hustle Puckett put forth even in Spring Training. There's probably a reason he makes 1/7th what Cuddy makes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zamboni Posted November 12, 2009 Share Posted November 12, 2009 Someone called commons show the other day and said he had gone to the Metrodome garage sale. He said he bought a pair of Delmons cleats- they weighed 90 lbs each. I thought that was pretty funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knoppers Posted November 15, 2009 Share Posted November 15, 2009 maybe delmon needs to throw another bat at the umpire to get him going. jj hardy is a big improvement on this team, we need to sign OC, and move him over to 3rd base, and not sign crede. we still need to lock in the MVP to a long term contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MNTwinsFan Posted November 19, 2009 Share Posted November 19, 2009 All things considered, I think it was a decent trade. Since the departure of Barlett, there is too much musical chairs in the infield with sub-standard hitters. It simplifies the outfield situation so Gardy isn't too overtaxed and we get some power potential on a team that will need more to compete in the post season. As much as I love having him in the lineup every day in the regular season, Kubel folds like a cheap suit in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winterwalleye Posted November 20, 2009 Share Posted November 20, 2009 now get rid of punto and tolbert and get some real infielders not 200 hitters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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