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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from chaffmj in Salt lick deer traffic   
    If I lived closer I'd bring a mineral rock over and throw it in the woods for you.  That way you'd have deniability.  They're even on sale at Fleet Farm Trophy Rock
     
    I can see where the big white salt blocks will attract attention buy the mineral rocks could go unnoticed.  Even a bag of mineral might work.  It dissolves into the soil after awhile but the deer still will be attracted to it. 
     
    Another idea is go hang a bird feeder just inside the woods.  If they ask tell them you didn't think they'd mind watching birds since they won't hurt the lawn.  If your neighborhood is anything like mine you'll have more deer at the feeder than you do birds.  You'll just need to go top it off pretty often.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from fisninfool in Salt lick deer traffic   
    If I lived closer I'd bring a mineral rock over and throw it in the woods for you.  That way you'd have deniability.  They're even on sale at Fleet Farm Trophy Rock
     
    I can see where the big white salt blocks will attract attention buy the mineral rocks could go unnoticed.  Even a bag of mineral might work.  It dissolves into the soil after awhile but the deer still will be attracted to it. 
     
    Another idea is go hang a bird feeder just inside the woods.  If they ask tell them you didn't think they'd mind watching birds since they won't hurt the lawn.  If your neighborhood is anything like mine you'll have more deer at the feeder than you do birds.  You'll just need to go top it off pretty often.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from Mike89 in Salt lick deer traffic   
    If I lived closer I'd bring a mineral rock over and throw it in the woods for you.  That way you'd have deniability.  They're even on sale at Fleet Farm Trophy Rock
     
    I can see where the big white salt blocks will attract attention buy the mineral rocks could go unnoticed.  Even a bag of mineral might work.  It dissolves into the soil after awhile but the deer still will be attracted to it. 
     
    Another idea is go hang a bird feeder just inside the woods.  If they ask tell them you didn't think they'd mind watching birds since they won't hurt the lawn.  If your neighborhood is anything like mine you'll have more deer at the feeder than you do birds.  You'll just need to go top it off pretty often.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from ozzie in Salt lick deer traffic   
    If I lived closer I'd bring a mineral rock over and throw it in the woods for you.  That way you'd have deniability.  They're even on sale at Fleet Farm Trophy Rock
     
    I can see where the big white salt blocks will attract attention buy the mineral rocks could go unnoticed.  Even a bag of mineral might work.  It dissolves into the soil after awhile but the deer still will be attracted to it. 
     
    Another idea is go hang a bird feeder just inside the woods.  If they ask tell them you didn't think they'd mind watching birds since they won't hurt the lawn.  If your neighborhood is anything like mine you'll have more deer at the feeder than you do birds.  You'll just need to go top it off pretty often.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from ozzie in Salt lick deer traffic   
    I doubt a salt block is going to draw more deer to the area.  You'll still have the same number of deer they just may stay a little longer at that one spot. 
     
    If you toss out a salt block is there any place you can put it maybe back in the woods a yard or 2 that will still give you a view of the deer?  If you need to be more covert maybe one of those mineral rocks would work.  They look enough like a rock that most people probably wouldn't stop to pay that much attention to it if put in an inconspicuous spot.
     
    Honestly the biggest mistake you made was asking for permission.  I'd have just gone and put it out.  Odds are they'd have never noticed and if they did they wouldn't know who did it.
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from Wanderer in Blood trail ran cold   
    That order of operations seems about right and Im currently right on track.  Starting to look forward to next year already
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    nofishfisherman reacted to Wanderer in Blood trail ran cold   
    At my start to bow hunting I had a co-worker who often said things I didn’t like even though he was also often right.
     
    He told me I was going to go in this order: miss, wound, then kill.
     
    The thing that annoyed me the most about it was I was practicing a ton and on 3D ranges as they were first developing.  From tree stands, through shed windows and hole in steel plates.  I thought he just didn’t realize my capabilities.
     
    Low and behold, I missed, then wounded and then finally got my first kill in my first year with a bow.  Up till that point I’ve taken scores of deer by firearms and never lost one.  It’s humbling.
     
    Ive helped many, many people track their deer in addition to my own and there are just some cold hard truths about certain hits that play out in the blood trail.  You’ll always wonder what happened if you don’t find them but they are surprisingly resilient creatures.  You’ll always remember this one and what you could’ve done better, and then you’ll do it the next time. 👍
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from BRULEDRIFTER in Blood trail ran cold   
    Just thought Id update with a final outcome.  I spent 5-6 hours looking Saturday night and several more hours on Sunday looking.  Ended up giving up my hunt on Sunday in favor of spending more time looking for the deer despite there being little chance of the meat being salvageable with over night temps that didn't get much below 50 degrees.  In all my looking I found no additional sign after the blood trail ran out after about 15-20 yards.  Once the fog set in Saturday night everything started getting wet so the blood I was finding was already starting to get watered down.  The moisture in the air also reflected the light from my head lamp making it really hard to see.  Not ideal tracking conditions for sure.  But I still spent hours on my hands and knees searching in all directions from last blood hoping to stay on the trail. 
     
    After all that effort I still came up empty handed which sucks.  I at least wanted to find the deer to see what I could learn from the shot.  It looked ok although a bit high on impact but replaying it in my head I know I rushed it a bit.  The deer was no wall mounter, just a spike buck meant for the freezer in a high deer population area but it still sucks.
     
    Live and learn I guess.  This weekend closed out my hunting season for the year so I'll work to improve this off season and I'll give it another shot next fall. 
     
    On the plus side all my searching brought me into new areas of the property that I've typically left untouched due to them being really tight to bedding.  I found a huge crab apple tree tucked right up to the prime bedding area that the deer have been hitting hard.  Scraps, rubs, and the ground around the tree is worn down to bare dirt from all the deer tracks.  I also found a way to access it and set up on it with any sort of west wind.  So I'll take whatever positive I can.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from Finns in Blood trail ran cold   
    Just thought Id update with a final outcome.  I spent 5-6 hours looking Saturday night and several more hours on Sunday looking.  Ended up giving up my hunt on Sunday in favor of spending more time looking for the deer despite there being little chance of the meat being salvageable with over night temps that didn't get much below 50 degrees.  In all my looking I found no additional sign after the blood trail ran out after about 15-20 yards.  Once the fog set in Saturday night everything started getting wet so the blood I was finding was already starting to get watered down.  The moisture in the air also reflected the light from my head lamp making it really hard to see.  Not ideal tracking conditions for sure.  But I still spent hours on my hands and knees searching in all directions from last blood hoping to stay on the trail. 
     
    After all that effort I still came up empty handed which sucks.  I at least wanted to find the deer to see what I could learn from the shot.  It looked ok although a bit high on impact but replaying it in my head I know I rushed it a bit.  The deer was no wall mounter, just a spike buck meant for the freezer in a high deer population area but it still sucks.
     
    Live and learn I guess.  This weekend closed out my hunting season for the year so I'll work to improve this off season and I'll give it another shot next fall. 
     
    On the plus side all my searching brought me into new areas of the property that I've typically left untouched due to them being really tight to bedding.  I found a huge crab apple tree tucked right up to the prime bedding area that the deer have been hitting hard.  Scraps, rubs, and the ground around the tree is worn down to bare dirt from all the deer tracks.  I also found a way to access it and set up on it with any sort of west wind.  So I'll take whatever positive I can.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from chaffmj in Blood trail ran cold   
    Just thought Id update with a final outcome.  I spent 5-6 hours looking Saturday night and several more hours on Sunday looking.  Ended up giving up my hunt on Sunday in favor of spending more time looking for the deer despite there being little chance of the meat being salvageable with over night temps that didn't get much below 50 degrees.  In all my looking I found no additional sign after the blood trail ran out after about 15-20 yards.  Once the fog set in Saturday night everything started getting wet so the blood I was finding was already starting to get watered down.  The moisture in the air also reflected the light from my head lamp making it really hard to see.  Not ideal tracking conditions for sure.  But I still spent hours on my hands and knees searching in all directions from last blood hoping to stay on the trail. 
     
    After all that effort I still came up empty handed which sucks.  I at least wanted to find the deer to see what I could learn from the shot.  It looked ok although a bit high on impact but replaying it in my head I know I rushed it a bit.  The deer was no wall mounter, just a spike buck meant for the freezer in a high deer population area but it still sucks.
     
    Live and learn I guess.  This weekend closed out my hunting season for the year so I'll work to improve this off season and I'll give it another shot next fall. 
     
    On the plus side all my searching brought me into new areas of the property that I've typically left untouched due to them being really tight to bedding.  I found a huge crab apple tree tucked right up to the prime bedding area that the deer have been hitting hard.  Scraps, rubs, and the ground around the tree is worn down to bare dirt from all the deer tracks.  I also found a way to access it and set up on it with any sort of west wind.  So I'll take whatever positive I can.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from fishingstar in Blood trail ran cold   
    Just thought Id update with a final outcome.  I spent 5-6 hours looking Saturday night and several more hours on Sunday looking.  Ended up giving up my hunt on Sunday in favor of spending more time looking for the deer despite there being little chance of the meat being salvageable with over night temps that didn't get much below 50 degrees.  In all my looking I found no additional sign after the blood trail ran out after about 15-20 yards.  Once the fog set in Saturday night everything started getting wet so the blood I was finding was already starting to get watered down.  The moisture in the air also reflected the light from my head lamp making it really hard to see.  Not ideal tracking conditions for sure.  But I still spent hours on my hands and knees searching in all directions from last blood hoping to stay on the trail. 
     
    After all that effort I still came up empty handed which sucks.  I at least wanted to find the deer to see what I could learn from the shot.  It looked ok although a bit high on impact but replaying it in my head I know I rushed it a bit.  The deer was no wall mounter, just a spike buck meant for the freezer in a high deer population area but it still sucks.
     
    Live and learn I guess.  This weekend closed out my hunting season for the year so I'll work to improve this off season and I'll give it another shot next fall. 
     
    On the plus side all my searching brought me into new areas of the property that I've typically left untouched due to them being really tight to bedding.  I found a huge crab apple tree tucked right up to the prime bedding area that the deer have been hitting hard.  Scraps, rubs, and the ground around the tree is worn down to bare dirt from all the deer tracks.  I also found a way to access it and set up on it with any sort of west wind.  So I'll take whatever positive I can.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from hugonian1 in Blood trail ran cold   
    Just thought Id update with a final outcome.  I spent 5-6 hours looking Saturday night and several more hours on Sunday looking.  Ended up giving up my hunt on Sunday in favor of spending more time looking for the deer despite there being little chance of the meat being salvageable with over night temps that didn't get much below 50 degrees.  In all my looking I found no additional sign after the blood trail ran out after about 15-20 yards.  Once the fog set in Saturday night everything started getting wet so the blood I was finding was already starting to get watered down.  The moisture in the air also reflected the light from my head lamp making it really hard to see.  Not ideal tracking conditions for sure.  But I still spent hours on my hands and knees searching in all directions from last blood hoping to stay on the trail. 
     
    After all that effort I still came up empty handed which sucks.  I at least wanted to find the deer to see what I could learn from the shot.  It looked ok although a bit high on impact but replaying it in my head I know I rushed it a bit.  The deer was no wall mounter, just a spike buck meant for the freezer in a high deer population area but it still sucks.
     
    Live and learn I guess.  This weekend closed out my hunting season for the year so I'll work to improve this off season and I'll give it another shot next fall. 
     
    On the plus side all my searching brought me into new areas of the property that I've typically left untouched due to them being really tight to bedding.  I found a huge crab apple tree tucked right up to the prime bedding area that the deer have been hitting hard.  Scraps, rubs, and the ground around the tree is worn down to bare dirt from all the deer tracks.  I also found a way to access it and set up on it with any sort of west wind.  So I'll take whatever positive I can.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from ozzie in Blood trail ran cold   
    Yeah I looked right away. A lot of deer bed there so could have easily been a different one. I saw no signs of blood in any of the beds.  Planning to look one more time before I have to head home.  
     
    This one has me stumped.
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from ozzie in Blood trail ran cold   
    Just thought Id update with a final outcome.  I spent 5-6 hours looking Saturday night and several more hours on Sunday looking.  Ended up giving up my hunt on Sunday in favor of spending more time looking for the deer despite there being little chance of the meat being salvageable with over night temps that didn't get much below 50 degrees.  In all my looking I found no additional sign after the blood trail ran out after about 15-20 yards.  Once the fog set in Saturday night everything started getting wet so the blood I was finding was already starting to get watered down.  The moisture in the air also reflected the light from my head lamp making it really hard to see.  Not ideal tracking conditions for sure.  But I still spent hours on my hands and knees searching in all directions from last blood hoping to stay on the trail. 
     
    After all that effort I still came up empty handed which sucks.  I at least wanted to find the deer to see what I could learn from the shot.  It looked ok although a bit high on impact but replaying it in my head I know I rushed it a bit.  The deer was no wall mounter, just a spike buck meant for the freezer in a high deer population area but it still sucks.
     
    Live and learn I guess.  This weekend closed out my hunting season for the year so I'll work to improve this off season and I'll give it another shot next fall. 
     
    On the plus side all my searching brought me into new areas of the property that I've typically left untouched due to them being really tight to bedding.  I found a huge crab apple tree tucked right up to the prime bedding area that the deer have been hitting hard.  Scraps, rubs, and the ground around the tree is worn down to bare dirt from all the deer tracks.  I also found a way to access it and set up on it with any sort of west wind.  So I'll take whatever positive I can.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from Wanderer in Blood trail ran cold   
    Just thought Id update with a final outcome.  I spent 5-6 hours looking Saturday night and several more hours on Sunday looking.  Ended up giving up my hunt on Sunday in favor of spending more time looking for the deer despite there being little chance of the meat being salvageable with over night temps that didn't get much below 50 degrees.  In all my looking I found no additional sign after the blood trail ran out after about 15-20 yards.  Once the fog set in Saturday night everything started getting wet so the blood I was finding was already starting to get watered down.  The moisture in the air also reflected the light from my head lamp making it really hard to see.  Not ideal tracking conditions for sure.  But I still spent hours on my hands and knees searching in all directions from last blood hoping to stay on the trail. 
     
    After all that effort I still came up empty handed which sucks.  I at least wanted to find the deer to see what I could learn from the shot.  It looked ok although a bit high on impact but replaying it in my head I know I rushed it a bit.  The deer was no wall mounter, just a spike buck meant for the freezer in a high deer population area but it still sucks.
     
    Live and learn I guess.  This weekend closed out my hunting season for the year so I'll work to improve this off season and I'll give it another shot next fall. 
     
    On the plus side all my searching brought me into new areas of the property that I've typically left untouched due to them being really tight to bedding.  I found a huge crab apple tree tucked right up to the prime bedding area that the deer have been hitting hard.  Scraps, rubs, and the ground around the tree is worn down to bare dirt from all the deer tracks.  I also found a way to access it and set up on it with any sort of west wind.  So I'll take whatever positive I can.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from ozzie in Blood trail ran cold   
    Looking for some input. I'm fairly new to bow hunting, been at it maybe 5 years. Shot my second deer with a bow today...yeah yeah I know its rifle opener but I prefer bow.
     
    Anyways made a shot slight quartering away at about 18 yards. Hit looked ok but a touch high from what I could tell but also no pass through.  No big thud sound just a tiny crack sound. Looked like solid penatration would have guessed 2 holes but no evidence of that.  Was shooting 3 blade muzzy.
     
    It ran off about 50 yards and stopped for a second and then walked off. Found this blood where it stopped but after that only tiny drops. 3 hours on my hands and knees and I lost blood after 20-30 yards. Only found 3 drops in that stretch.  
     
    Does this blood tell you anything? 
     
    I just pulled the plug on the search for the night. Lost the trail and fog is setting in so everything is wet now and my headlamp just reflects off the fog so I can't see.  
     
    Looking for any insight you might have.  I'll be out in the morning looking again but with the warm temps and coyotes in the area I'm not real hopeful. 
     

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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from Mike89 in Blood trail ran cold   
    Just thought Id update with a final outcome.  I spent 5-6 hours looking Saturday night and several more hours on Sunday looking.  Ended up giving up my hunt on Sunday in favor of spending more time looking for the deer despite there being little chance of the meat being salvageable with over night temps that didn't get much below 50 degrees.  In all my looking I found no additional sign after the blood trail ran out after about 15-20 yards.  Once the fog set in Saturday night everything started getting wet so the blood I was finding was already starting to get watered down.  The moisture in the air also reflected the light from my head lamp making it really hard to see.  Not ideal tracking conditions for sure.  But I still spent hours on my hands and knees searching in all directions from last blood hoping to stay on the trail. 
     
    After all that effort I still came up empty handed which sucks.  I at least wanted to find the deer to see what I could learn from the shot.  It looked ok although a bit high on impact but replaying it in my head I know I rushed it a bit.  The deer was no wall mounter, just a spike buck meant for the freezer in a high deer population area but it still sucks.
     
    Live and learn I guess.  This weekend closed out my hunting season for the year so I'll work to improve this off season and I'll give it another shot next fall. 
     
    On the plus side all my searching brought me into new areas of the property that I've typically left untouched due to them being really tight to bedding.  I found a huge crab apple tree tucked right up to the prime bedding area that the deer have been hitting hard.  Scraps, rubs, and the ground around the tree is worn down to bare dirt from all the deer tracks.  I also found a way to access it and set up on it with any sort of west wind.  So I'll take whatever positive I can.
     
     
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from Wanderer in Blood trail ran cold   
    Yeah I looked right away. A lot of deer bed there so could have easily been a different one. I saw no signs of blood in any of the beds.  Planning to look one more time before I have to head home.  
     
    This one has me stumped.
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from Rick in Blood trail ran cold   
    Yeah I looked right away. A lot of deer bed there so could have easily been a different one. I saw no signs of blood in any of the beds.  Planning to look one more time before I have to head home.  
     
    This one has me stumped.
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from Rick in Blood trail ran cold   
    I've been out searching and I'm starting to lean toward long gone. So far I've grid searched likely routes and came up with nothing. I've walked the bedding areas and did bump a deer out of one spot but couldn't say it was the same deer. If it was it looked healthy.
     
    Never found the arrow or where it would have bedded. 
     
    I've searched up to all the property boundaries but will need to get permission to go any further.  At this point with no evidence of direction I feel like options are limited.  Came back in for some food but will head out one more time later this morning before I have to start packing up.
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from Rick in Blood trail ran cold   
    Thanks guys. I had a little help last night but that help came from my 80 year old aunt and uncle. They were troopers out looking for blood in the dark.  After awhile I sent them back in and i searched alone for a few more hours.  Back out at sunrise today.
     
    I have the blood trail marked and plan to grid search in direction of travel.  I'm pretty sure we didn't bump him last night. He's either dead nearby or long gone.
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from jbell1981 in Random Daily Pics   
    Sorry to hear that Jbell.  Thats never easy to deal with. 
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from BRULEDRIFTER in garage deer processors   
    Looks like its time for garage butcher shops to start butchering for free but start charging $75-100 for parking in their driveway for 5 minutes or as long as it takes to drop off and pick up.
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from Wanderer in garage deer processors   
    Looks like its time for garage butcher shops to start butchering for free but start charging $75-100 for parking in their driveway for 5 minutes or as long as it takes to drop off and pick up.
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    nofishfisherman got a reaction from smurfy in garage deer processors   
    Haven't read the new law but I got to imagine if someone is doing any sort of butchering for a fee the law will apply.  Skinning and deboning is still handling meat so I can't imagine how that would be allowed without a permit but making sausage with that meat once its deboned isn't. 
     
    I guess I can understand how they may want to ensure safe food handling whether done by a full time commercial butcher or a seasonal one man butcher shop but seems a bit rigid if they are going to require all garage butcher shops to have their garage decked out into a commercial grade environment.
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