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NEW YORK CITY FLY OVER

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How many saw this in the news. Some one came up with a nother bad idea and did not think it through. when will the stupidty end, some people just do not use their brains anymore. Nothing like flying a 747 over new york followed by two fighter jets to get the people going. And for a photo shoot, bet that cost the taxpayers a few bucks.

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Heads will roll on this one, I am sure. Mayor Bloomberg was none too happy.

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ever hear of photoshop

Indeed, it's a lot cheaper and safer.

My favorite thing is the people who ran when they saw it. I consider myself to be pretty fleet of foot but outrunning a jet? I guess having lived near the airport for so long I find it pretty absurd. Not anymore but before they redid the runways 747's used to pass right over my house at maybe 500 feet. Low enough to shake the walls at least. September 11th it was actually pretty eerie to not have the airplanes passing overhead...

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Some one came up with a nother bad idea and did not think it through. when will the stupidty end, some people just do not use their brains anymore.

No worries. It was AIRFORCE ONE. The ah, Prez. is ah, angry. Only one person in the world can get those planes in the air so it ah,---- won't happen again.

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Imagine the different reaction we'd have from the media if this would have happened a year ago........

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And for a photo shoot, bet that cost the taxpayers a few bucks.

Yep, $328,835.00 to be exact. I guess you have to "stimulate" the economy somehow. mad

From Bloomberg:

McCain, the senior Republican on the Armed Services Committee, asked Gates to provide a description of the mission, who ultimately approved it and an estimate of how much it cost.

The flight by the VC-25, a modified Boeing Co. 747, and two F-16 fighter jets cost $328,835, Air Force spokeswoman Vicki Stein said.

Three-Hour Mission

That includes $300,658 for the larger plane, which flew a three-hour mission, and about $28,178 for the F-16 jets, which flew 1.8 hours each, Stein said in an e-mailed statement.

The total includes fuel used in flight, fuel used to power ground equipment used to prepare the aircraft, and ground maintenance, Stein said.

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Wouldn't you think they have enough photo's of that airplane yet? I bet they have thousand's of pic's of that airplane in the air over various landmarks. Why do they NEED another?

I think they may have been up to something else. According to the radio this morning, the reason given for the fly-over has changed some from the intiatial "photo-op" response. Plus, now they are blaming some low-level staffer for non-communication.

Nice!

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One story I read said that if they didn't do this fly over mission they would have simply done some other mission which would have cost the same amount.

There are probably 100 missions a day (some valuable and some fairly stupid) that are run by the military that cost this much or more but most aren't done in such poor taste.

I wouldn't worry about the costs that much. Afterall, the defense budget needs to be spent on something. Its not like there are two wars going on that the money could go towards.

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Once again, the lack of common sense in this country astounds me. Nobody questioned this plan??? What a bunch of boneheads.

All I can do is just shake my head.

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I think thats the theme in every administration.

In this case I doubt that the upper most level people had much knowledge about this unless the actual purpose of the flight is substantially different then what is being reported. For now I'll take the stated purpose at face value. Not sure what other purpose they would have for a fly over.

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So what was the actual purpose of all this? I mean outside of continually wasting out money. If this had been done during Bush can you imagine what the media would have been done. This is just sick and it keeps getting sicker.

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On another call to the White House Military Office, headed by Clinton-era Army Secretary Louis Caldera, the reporter explained how the Air Force was answering only questions about the cost of the flight and not anything else. Cornered, the WHMO official punted: "You'll have to call the White House press office." But White House press secretary Robert Gibbs couldn't shed any light on the matter either. "They've had [such photos] for at least two decades," Gibbs told TIME on Wednesday. "Our point was that we don't need a new one." (The publicity pictures, apparently, are released to the media and also handed out as souvenirs to guests who travel aboard the presidential plane.)

"It was a mistake," President Obama had said of the incident the day before, "and it will not happen again." The White House has steadfastly refused to rule out firing Caldera, whom Obama appointed with a glowing recommendation. "Louis has served his country with distinction in uniform and in government, and his pedigree is second to none," the President said at the time. "I know he'll bring to the White House the same dedication and integrity that have earned him the highest praise in every post."

Seems like the Media was all over it today from what I saw.

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There is a conspiracy here. I think he did it to mess with ya , he is testing you to see how far he can get you off your rocker. laugh. I think he likes pushing them buttons just to get you all riled up.

Man if we had all the presidents pay us back for all the stupid stuff they were affiliated to there would be no deficit.

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Yea, I know to me wasting money on a photo op and fighting terrorism and to keep our freedom is on the same plane. crazy

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So you think the Iraq war was a flawlessly run campaign? I wasn't talking about the merit of the war but simply how it was conducted. Sending troops into battle without the proper equipment is a flaw much bigger then a bungled photo op.

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I never said that and I don't want to turn this into another war thread to get shut down. But you can't compare the two.

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I agree its not the time or place to discuss that. And you're right you can't compare the two as they are on much different scales.

But I think the point to be made is that there are plenty of mistakes to be pointed out no matter what President you want to discuss.

Really I doubt Obama had anything to do with this. Does it really take a Presidential order to conduct a photo shoot? I suspect not, I assume someone much lower made the decision and thats the guy that should pay for the mistake.

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