Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
french_lake_kid

Stalled Strutting Pair of Toms At 60yds. What to Do?

19 posts in this topic

Had this prob this A.M. and cant really afford to miss many more mornings of school. What do you guys do to convince him those last 20yds? Thanx guys/ladies smile

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Need more input, more input.

Were you using decoys? This sometimes helps.

Were you with anyone? Often if the caller sneaks behind you a ways the birds will work past you to the caller.

Sometimes just scratching in the leaves to sound like a hen feeding will work.

Soft calling. Clucks and soft purrs.

Sometimes NOTHING will work. frown Aint it a great sport? grin

You might also try setting up near the roost AFTER school.

Good luck tomorrow!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Oh sorry, ummmm, about 300yards from there roost, on the edge of a hay field and oak patch with deep gullys. Had a lone buckwing motion hen in up-right "standard" (not feeding) position about 10 yards from the edge of the woods in the field.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Maybe you are calling to much, once he sees the decoy you can back off of the call a lot. Or else when he doesn't commit and goes back in the woods, try cutting him off inside the woods. Usually works very well. Did that this morning. Took two moves to finally get both Toms to commit. Good Times!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

300 yards is pretty far. Maybe try setting up a little closer. Also I'm not sure one decoy is enough this early. Most hens are still in smaller flocks right now. I agree with HuntFish, not much need for calling once the decoys have been spotted.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sometimes NOT having a decoy is better. The tom seeing that hen (in a decoy) that does NOT respond to his gobbling ......which he is asking her to do makes him hang up. No absolutes in any situation, just be prepared for a different look to entice that gobbler into range.

WD

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I had a similar situation a few years ago. They would hang up out of range. I went home that night and looked on the internet for tips. One thing I read is what was mentioned earlier, rustle the leaves to sound like a hen feeding. So the next day I set up closer to the roost area. I spooked them off setting up my blind. Velcro windows are very noisy. The turkeys did come through,and now they are at the spot I set up the day before. I was not happy. They were even gobbling to the rustling leaves but would not come in. So I circled into the woods and came out the opposite side of the pasture. I set up my decoy and the 3 turkeys gobbled like crazy and walked by at 60 yds or so back into the woods. By this time I was wondering what am I doing wrong. In desperation I made the fastest yelp I could on my glass call. The turkeys turned around and came right to my decoy. I shot my first turkey that day. This whole thing took about 2 hours.

But everyday is different.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Set up so when you see the bird it's already or nearly in range. For instance below a rise, around a corner. The leaf rustleing is a good tip. I've killed toms doing this wihtout a call. Try it wihtout a decoy and back off on the calling as the tom gets closer. Make him look for that hen and wander into range.

These birds sometime make it so easy and then later make it seem impossible to kill one.

Good Luck!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Are you set up at a spot they are using or a funnel type location? I'm guessing you are picking the spot because the trees are there to break up your outline. If you can move somewhere closer to where you've been seeing them you'll do yourself a favor of not having to draw them off the beaten path so far.

Otherwise, like others have said, calling can be minimized. Subtlety is preferred this early. Borrow some hen decoys from a friend or buy a few cheap foam ones and make it look like there are a few girls looking for love.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You can try this or that! If it works, it worked that time. You're turkey hunting! Let it drive you crazy! All good advice contradicts itself in a certain way. Hit the books extra hard and follow your passion. If you think about it, you're actually sick! I get the plague about the same time every year!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know you said your not using a feeding hen deke but it something you should look into. Its worked wonders for me. Probably the best thing ive ever bought for turkey hunting, no more hung up toms since i got it-they come runnin.

Also make sure your decoy is close to u no more than 5 yards in front, that way he has to come close to you before he sees that something not right.

I rarely do any calling once he made eye sight with my decoy and if i do it very quiet purrs. Never loud calling when hes close, youll never hear a hen call as loud as you can make your pot call get. Loud calls work good for getting attention at a distance but not when theyre close.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It happens - that's turkey hunting. So exciting but sometimes so darn frustrating! Plenty of good advice and tricks mentioned here but as Don said, sometimes no matter what you do won't get them to commit. We had a pair at 17-18yds yesterday and couldn't get a shot and there was even a real hen on the opposite side of the blind and they still wouldn't budge... talk about frustrating. Oh well, tomorrow's another day. Good luck!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Many things could've been the cause, including a turkey who just wouldn't cooperate under any conditions.

That being said, when I have a turkey that's hung up, I try to remember the phrase "silence is golden". Sometimes the best call you can make is no call. Good luck!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Were yours decoys facing you or the birds. If the decoys were facing the Toms, they would probably expect the hen to come to them. I like to have my decoys somewhat facing towards me or so the decoys backs are towards the way I think the birds will be coming from.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know it won't be the answer to all situations, but yesterday I had two decoys set out. One hen and the Primos Jake Mobile. I just used the artificial tail on the jake. We had two toms come out of the woods and they ran to the jake decoy. We should have doubled but only got one. We went out and picked up my bird and were standing discussing what happened when more birds gobbled close by. We got back in the blind and within ten minutes, four more longbeards came out. They ran from about 60-70 yards away straight to the jake. After waiting a minute for a bird to separate enough for a clear shot, we had our second bird in about ten minutes. I have used other jake decoys before but have never had the results we got yesterday. I am sold on the Jake Mobile decoy!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I also used the jake strutter with real tail feathers to take my last 2 birds with archery equipment both shots were under 12 yards and the one 2 years ago was beating the stuffing out of the decoy before I could get a shot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanx guys for all the tips, I left my house 2 go 2 my g-mas where I hunt and never got to a computer til now... I ended up about 50yds inside the tree line and that just so happened to be 50 or so yards from the roosted 20-30 turkeys. They were a bit more quiet 2day with the wind but they still gobbled. The woods I was hunting is at the endge of a road, corn field, swamp, hay field, and is on the edge of a big hill with very few but very big oaks, also deep gullys and sharp ridges intermitted together. So not much cover, I set my lone hen about 20yards to the right and behind me, I sat at the base of the hill looking up, and back against the bottom of a lone oak with luckily a downwed tree with the crotch right at my feet and also rested my gun. They were mostly roosted at the top of the hill on the edge of the corn fielid, as it got lighter I could see a few silouettes swaying in the wind. Well all but one bird flew down in the opposite direction as me to feed in the corn field. One strutting tom wavered back and fourth trying to decide between joining the group to feed or come down the hill to have his way with my hen. He at first joined the group and I continued soft clucking and purring. I looked up to see one last bird in the tree and though it was if they all turned to crows because 5 other turkeys flew over to the surrounding trees and then finally with the lead of the origonal bird they swooped down. The first landed nomore than 10' infront of me, which was a lone hen followed by 5 more hens. That was enough to convince the entire flock up in the corn field to come running down the hill with the undecided strutter from 10min. earlier leading the way by about 100yds. He seen all the hens around me and couldn't help himself. So at this point I have 4 hens on my left, 3 on my right and 5 toms and 4 more hens ahead of me, almost entirely surrounded eek Wow was that a test of nerves, but to shorten this a bit the tom basically followed the hens to my left and when his head went behind the last remaining tree I could allow to still get the shot off, I pulled up and he stuck his head out the otherside and game over! Crazy thing happened though, must of been the dominate bird cuz once he hit the ground and did his "death flap" 2 other mature birds FLEW over and started spurring and jumping on him!!! It was crazy. Thanx to all of you who replied, 23lbs. 9 1/2 beard, 1" left spur and 1 3/8" right (very sharp) spur. Killed at 6:30 am Zone 461B smile

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Congrats!!!!

What an exciting hunt! smile

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!


Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.


Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    • wear a good balaclava and get a open face with a cold weather breath box never had a problem
    • In my opinion I would look for a nice used wingmaster 2 of my friends have bought a new 870 express about a year apart and they both had the same shell extraction problems. Maybe just a fluke but when I see two different people have the same problem with a Gun makes me think to find a different choice. Heck I have a Mossberg 500 that I treat like poop and I have never had one single malfunction.   I have shot my friends newer express and I can really tell the difference in quality beside my wingmaster  
    • I have Ice Kings.  They are in a word, awesome.  They are about 20-25 years old. Dang I hate dating myself but I have never even bought new liners for these boots.  They are probably one of the finest products I won.  I have never had so much as a chill i my feet.  I usually fish outside but if I am in a flip over, my feet are usually on the ice.  Again, never a chill.  I typically wear a midnight smart wool sock.   For some reason I have been considering new boots.  I guess it is the weight, I would love to have something that is not s heavy and also has better traction.   Today I visited Joe's Sporting Goods and saw some really nice boots (they have a great selection) by Muck, Lacrosse, Sorel, Baffin and some other Canadian made boot that looked very nice. I checked out the ice Kings........they are not the same boot as I have, they don't seem to have the quality to me.  They might be as warm but the rubber feels more stiff almost like it would crack, the uppers are solid leather, mine are leather and corder combo.  The liner also seemed thinner.   After looking at all the boots, I am surprised none offer water proof uppers. Also I am not entirely certain why some seem extend up to your knee with insulation.  Just seems like Over kill because most who would where these boots owed also have some sort of insulated pant on.  Overall I found the boots to be pretty heavy, I was surprised with 20 years past boots have not advanced more.
    • But will be missed but most.............you mad bro?    
    • You boxed yourself.   He was not supporting the Vikings stadium, he was saying that Republicans supported it and now are feigning outrage over the cook subsidy. And then not to be outdone the Republicans are now celebrating the Carrier subsidy.   Pretty much just reinforced his point.      
    • Think we should change the topic to "Trump for Trees."........and all will be well.
    • Had to go all the way back to Missouri to hunt in the snow this year! Beautiful morning but not much movement. Did see some late rut activity Friday.
    • Dotch, you guys over there are almost famous....   Almost because it is Waseca, but whatever.    Mark Seeley's weather blog... http://blog-weathertalk.extension.umn.edu/   .... Waseca now reports 54.13 inches of precipitation for 2016 and this is a new statewide annual precipitation record, surpassing the old one of 53.52" at St Francis (Anoka County) in 1991.
      ....   And an interesting thought...(from Mark, not me) Commentary on Winter TIME: No question will be answered this week, but I want to take TIME to make a comment about Winter TIME. Managing the TIME in the Winter Season in Minnesota is a different ball game than other seasons of the year, because everything takes longer. No question winter will be felt more frequently soon in the daily weather, and snowfalls will become more frequent this month. The rash of bicycle, pedestrian, and vehicular accidents reported during the snow storms towards the end of November reminded me about adjusting for Winter TIME. Our concept of time needs to be adjusted. Lengthen the time intervals that you have intuitively built-into your everyday habits and tasks. It takes longer to walk places, longer to drive places, longer to dress and undress, longer to warm up the car, longer to degomble (shed snow) when you come into the house. You need to make time to shovel snow, scrape the windshield, clean the furnace filters, When you walk take shorter steps and not too fast...put the boots, gloves and hat on when you go outside....check on the neighbor if their place hasn't been shoveled...everything should slow down..except for the long Minnesota goodbye..that is better shortened...just say goodbye, open the door, leave and close the door behind you....no need to stand in an open doorway for minutes conversing about last minute stuff. Winter TIME is an adjustment that may save you anxiety, regret, or even injury.
    • Would you use a bobber on your rattle reel with these? I would think a lively minnow would pull the line out of the contacts.
    • My my, how the mighty have fallen...  I went back to the thread on the cook subsidy, and what did I find in the second post from you, on the second page....     Gee, you were ok with the 66 million because it wasn't a stadium or something, but now all butt hurt over 7 million of Indiana money?    Now that there is a funny joke.  
  • Our Sponsors