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paul pachowicz

Hostage freed from pirates

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I just read that the capt of the hijacked ship by Samoli pirates was just rescued. It appears Navy snipers took out 3 of the 4 holding him and one was captured and is being held. 'bout time, I say, that we took action on these international punks.

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One would also hope that it is now open season on the other pirate ships that were reportedly steaming out to offer assistance.

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I agree Bryce, hopefully they go out and take care of them as well. Don't back down and let them slip now to cause future problems.

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Silly as it may sound, this was a the first real security test Obama's admin. has faced. Sounds like they passed, but there is no way the U.S. (or any ) can monitor that entire stretch of water.

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IMO, if they've known about the troubles with the pirates, insist on sending humanitarian aid into a hostile area, then arm the ships so they can atleast defend themselves.

I'm glad to hear they freed the captain but they have to be careful not to cause any deaths of any of the other hostages so we don't end up with troubles form other countries. It sounds as though there's over 200 hostages currently being held from many different countries such as France, Italy and Russia.

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Could you imagine what those pirates thought when a naval destoryer ship showed up. They should of been smart enough to know that a ransom wasn't going to happen.

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Could you imagine what those pirates thought when a naval destoryer ship showed up. They should of been smart enough to know that a ransom wasn't going to happen.

No kidding there.

Don't Mess With The US!!!!!!!

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Could you imagine what those pirates thought when a naval destoryer ship showed up. They should of been smart enough to know that a ransom wasn't going to happen.

I don't think is an intelligence thing, probably more arrogance or desperation.

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Originally Posted By: cbrooks
Could you imagine what those pirates thought when a naval destoryer ship showed up. They should of been smart enough to know that a ransom wasn't going to happen.

I don't think is an intelligence thing, probably more arrogance or desperation.

I'll side with the desparation. There was an article in the paper this weekend about the money these guys have made from the ransoms.

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Word to the wise...don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

Glad to see my shipmates handled themselves in an exemplary fashion once again!

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Glad to have Capt. Phillips safe. Congrats to the US Navy. It takes a brave person to give of themselves for others. I pray every night for the safe return of all the men and women who keep us safe and FREE.

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This is good news, I wonder if some of the other 200 or so hostages will pay the price for this however. I sure hope not.

And another question...why can't these shipping vessels that are carrying millions of dollars worth of goods protect themselves, I mean can't the crew be armed or what, I have little knowledgs regarding international water laws.

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I was wondering the same things, from what I heard on the news this weekend I guess some main shipping ports in other countries won't allow armed cargo vessels to enter their ports. You would think they could get creative with water cannons or something...

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Often times these "pirates" are armed with anti-tank rockets and RPG's.

Hardly a match for water cannons and small arms.

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Why are we messing with these punks. If a ship is approaching, let them have it b-4 they get close enough to do any damage. No messing around.

Fire now and ask questions later.

I hope the 200 that are left, come out of it safe and well.

G.C.

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It doesn't seem right that a few guys with machine guns and a tiller boat can cause that much havoc. Taking over big vessal,getting million dollar ransoms and getting away with murder. There is noway that should be happening. I hope this puts an end to this.

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I think these events are going to put a lot of pressure on those still being held. Either the shipping companies who have ships being held will have to hurry up and pay the ransoms or fear that the pirates will want a little retaliation.

The shoot first ask questions later mantra will likely have farther reaching effects then one might think.

In this case I think the correct action was taken. Options ran out and force was needed.

Ideally you would like to see the other 200 hostages freed at somepoint and then declare open war on these pirates once they do not hold any more civilians captives that they can retaliate against.

I've always wondered why they can't have weapons onabord but I guess it makes sense there may be laws in the ports regarding them. I know that some cruise ships are equpied with some sort of noise weapons. It actually shoots a highly focused loud noice at the approaching ships which prevents them from getting close enough to board the ship. Its been used effectively in that area before.

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Perhaps we should reach out to the more moderate elements of the Pirates ? laugh

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OK...so here's my question...How are these ships taken over? From the sounds of it, the Somali's aren't in a huge vessel, so they can't have too large of an arsenal. Seriously. Are they climbing the ropes into the ships? Or what? I just can't see how these big cargo ships are getting hijacked.

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From what I heard is that this last ship to get hijacked kept the pirates at bay for several hours by making some evassive moves.

I think what happens is that the crew are told to hold up below deck to avoid any possible gun fire. So if the pirate boat can catch up and and get a rope on the cargo ship it should be pretty easy to take the ship over since you have no one shooting back.

If these ships are able to have weapons it seems like it would be easy to defend them. Defensive positions could be built on deck to protect people from small arm fire and give the crew a position to attack from.

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Who needs weapons...roll some freight overboard and pick them off as they are climbing the ladder (or rope, or whatever).

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Here is why piracy still exists: The global shipping industry is worth 11 TRILLION dollars annually. Pirates get 200 million per yr. Who cares? The shipping companies probably spend more than that on coffee every yr. Bu these people have few other options. So its like this, subsistence farming or 10 grand a month. Do I feel sorry? no. Any sympathy? again no.

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Is it against the international laws to keep some pots of boiling oil ready and on deck? What about a flame thrower? What about a pinada with a buch of African killer bees in it?

What about a few baskets full of grenades tastefully stashed about the deck? Pirates pull up, toss up the ropes to board, a trained deck hand could stand back so as not to get shot and lob a couple of pinapples over the side...boats gonna be directly under the ropes.

How about the ships having their own AK's and RPG's? They could always be off loaded before making port and one of the company guys could make sure that there were somemore to be loaded onto the ship before they left port for the return trip.

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What kind of boat do these "pirates" use to catch these ships? How can these ships not outrun them?

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Todays pirates use a large 'Mother Ship' to locate targets and then drop small attack boats to go quickly to the target boat. Considering the complex nature of the process, there has to be larger forces at work in order to make this work. There is also rumors of spies in other countries telling the pirates when vessels are approaching the Horn of Africa and which ships to select in regards to cargo.

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