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blackdog1101

Small Perch for Bait

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I realize this is a pretty small topic in light of the major events happening around us these days, but it crossed my mind the other day when I was fishing. Why can't we use small perch for bait? I was panfishing on Minnetonka, with a tip up nearby for northerns. I had stopped on the way to buy 6 sucker minnows. Of course it turns out that many of the fish I was catching while panfishing were small perch, and would have been perfect bait. (I moved to another location for sunnies.) I can't see where there would be any harm if an angler were allowed to catch his own small perch and use them for bait. Say a max of 12 perch under 6". On lakes like Minnetonka perch are not a sport fish since they never grow big enough. Anyhow, it struck me as silly that I had to buy minnows when I was catching perfect bait-sized perch right where I was fishing for northerns. Anyone have any comments or thoughts on this? Like I say, it's no biggie, just something I thought of.

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I would like to see sunnies and some other panfish to be allowed as bait, under a certain length here in MN. Other states allow it. Now with all of the problems we are have trying to keep bait such as shiners at the bait stores, we could expand the options a little. There are many lakes around me that have stunted growth and would probably benifit from some smaller fish being taken out.

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Oops, that's exactly what I did for a little bit on Saturday. Caught a 3" perch then put it on my tip up. I honestly thought it was legal if it was under 4". Oh well, I guess I know now.

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I think it's because they are "game fish". I would like to see you be able to use the small guys, but I don't think that would ever happen.

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legal in Wisconsin.

Their is no money in us using perch or sunnies for bait, so we'll have to keep buying minnows and be taxed on it.

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I know many a fisherman who filled his livewell full of walleye on good old fashioned cutbait. Fillet a small perch and it stays on the hook forever and drives the walleye crazy. Of course, I would never do such a thing since it is against the law, but I know guys who do!!!

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It was comical when my neice's were sitting on a dock and the CO came by and asked what they were catching. The told him small perch, the kind Dad likes for northern fishing. They were quite young at the time and didn't know any better.

All he said was "tell Dad not to let me catch him doing it". shockedcrazy

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so thats why your dude lake tom and not honest tom? smirkcrazysmilewink

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Yep like Sand, said they are "Game fish" and you can't use them as bait! I know we use to when I was little a millon years ago! frown Use Sunny eye's to catch more Sunny's after we ran out of the worms we dug up.

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Yeah, but it makes no sense that fish which will never grow more than 6" or so are considered "game fish."

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Yeah, but it makes no sense that fish which will never grow more than 6" or so are considered "game fish."

Since when does "Making Sense" and "Making a Law or Passing Legislation" go hand in hand? cry

Have you seen some of the bills and new laws in the last couple of months? sick

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Did that when we were kids too, except we had a small strip of bacon to start with when it was too dry for worms....and that was a looooong time ago.

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i know a guy that has a walleye on the wall he caught with perch eyes.....on the mighty mille lacs!!

i asked a warden if that guy could get in troulbe

he looked at me kinda funny and said its border line dont let me see him doing it

this is a few yrs back

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legal in Wisconsin.

Their is no money in us using perch or sunnies for bait, so we'll have to keep buying minnows and be taxed on it.

Legal but it counts against your daily bag in panfish. Yes I've tried it and I will say sucker minnows seem to work a lot better.

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dude, Bacon? Huum. Cooked or raw? May have to try that sometime! laugh

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Raw....You gotta remember, we were like 12 years old at the time...We were fishing Birch Lake in White Bear, from the shore....we thought they were all keepers at that time. Thinking back, they were fairly small sunnies. crazy

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I really don't get it with regards to not using fish parts for bait.

I catch and kill a fish. I take part of that fish and use it to catch other fish. No limits have been violated - no invasive species have been introduced - no dynamite or nets or spears are in play.....

Using a strip of fish belly or several other parts seem to me the ultimate in fish recycling - getting good use out of those parts we don't eat anyhow!

This is another one of those funny Minnesota laws that really don't bear up well when you take a good long look at them.

Heck, everyone knows small perch are an excellent walleye bait at certain times and in certain places. That's why Rapala and many other companies have perch-colored/flavored lures! I am hard-pressed to find a downside to using small perch (legally caught) for bait.

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dude, oh the good old days! I remember trying gum, corn, bugs, candy, frogs, tin foil, bread, anything you could find to put on the hook! Maybe that's how Al Linder learned his stuff?? laugh

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Jackpine is making some sense here, if you count it against your limit of perch why can you not recycle parts of the fish. Here is another spin, can you go into the fish cleaning house and use parts of the discarded fish guts that people have thrown away and use that as bait? It is not fish that you caught, it is now garbage that you picked from the waste can? Riddle me this, boys!

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The problem with this is you cant prove where you acquired the bait. Wether it's from a fish cleaning station, the lake your fishing on or a different lake you fished yesterday. I personally dont have a problem with using small panfish for bait..there definitely is no shortage of them, escpecially on Mille Lacs. I would think that suckers would work better because they are a soft finned fish...I'm betting we have all pierced our hands and fingers on the perch's spines and gill plates before. Food for thought.

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laughlaughlaugh i have used that line myselk once or twice!!! bacon for bait? cant afford it to eat. smirkgrin why is that, some lakes perch get big some dont? on the lake our cabin is on when you do get a perch big enough to keep its wormy. just like winnie and cutfoot. they are connected winnie they are ok cutfoot most are wormy. confusedconfused

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I'm guessing that size has to do with predators in the lake, and food for the perch.

We only used a small strip of bacon to catch the first sunnie...then it was use the eyes to catch the rest. And bacon was only about $.29/lb back then. laugh

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when i was young i would spend the summer in illinois on the rock river and an old timer would bring me out to check and rebait his trotlines every day and he used sunnies for flathead catfish. he used some nice gills too, well they where nice looking at years old or so. but i remember him nailing 40 and 50 pound flatheads on em. I am in the boat of wishing we could use forage (dnr term) fish for bait too

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oh and on another note......the craziest thing ive every used was a black jelly bean and it worked on a sheephead go figure.

but im not that surprised really they do make some soft plastics infused with anise which is in black licorice and black jelly beans

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