Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
Sign in to follow this  
Randyjr.

No to Vick

Recommended Posts

I've been waiting for someone to post this; It will eventually start, so why not now. Falcons want to trade Vick. I say no way. Washed up? Never was accurate to begin with? Detroit could use him though. Who else do you think will be interested in taking a chance on Vick?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'd take my 5 and a half year old over both-

In all seriousness, why would any NFL team trade for him??? Who knows when he will get out of that Leavenworth, Kansas prison, and then who knows what kind of a suspension the NFL will put on him? I know if I were Godell a lifetime ban would seem very suitable. Giving up players or picks in a trade for someone that has a questionable future seems very unwise. For every 1 good play he makes, he makes 20 bad ones.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't want Vick any more than I want Favre here. Don't need either one as a washed up QB or distraction.

I couldnt have said it any better!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Vick would be perfect for the Vikes. The vikings love negative media attention. The Whizanator, the love boat, scalping of super bowl tickets, Moss fighting with the cops, etc.............

Just kidding MN fans, I love to throw those jabs out though.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't know if they love the media attention so much, but Vick would fit right into the never ending car wreck called the Minnesota Vikings.

I think it'd be great for the Vikes to sign him for next to nothing. It'd rank right up there with all the rest of the stupid things they've done over the years....and it's a long list!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Vick would be perfect for the Vikes. The vikings love negative media attention. The Whizanator, the love boat, scalping of super bowl tickets, Moss fighting with the cops, etc.............

Just kidding MN fans, I love to throw those jabs out though.

Ever heard of Mark Chmura?? Yeah the Packers are just perfect citizens. He got off, but then- never played again. Doesn't ring innocence does it? Brett Favre and his favorite pills, with a name that sounds alot like his FAVORITE team. We are talking pro athletes, and I think you'd be hard pressed to find any pro franchise without a few skeletons in their closets.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When you think about it. All Vick did was raise dogs for fighting. Pit Bulls to be exact. I dont know about you, but I for one wouldnt shed a tear if the species was eliminated from the face of the earth forever right now!

Think of all the woman beaters, people involved in murders, rapists, and just downright thugs that are playing in all pro-sports right now and no one gives them a second thought.

Hows the press coverage on Kobe Bryant these days?

I hear nothing but, "MVP" and "ONe of the greatest EVER!"

Yet, you have Mike Vick. Granted what he did was illegal and cruel..but in the scheme of things, how bad is it? I mean, these dogs were his property and he was doing something that was a very big part of black culture in the south. Just as bullfighting is a part of Spanish and Mexican culture. And like rodeos are a part of rural western culture.

I think that American society has been brainwashed and manipulated by the media to put more value on animal life that human life. For instance, when people get killed in the movies or you hear about it in the news...no one cares...When a dog is killed in the movies or a video of dogs being killed or hurt is on the news, people get overly emotional and outraged. Its all a part of PETAs bigger plans!

My point is... YES what MICHAEL VICK DID WAS BAD AND ILLEGAL. NO ARGUEMENT about that.

I just think that he was unfairly punished for his crime in relation to other crimes. Isnt is sad when a dog fighter gets more time than a first time sex offender? I think thats shows whats wrong with the American justice system.

I also think Vick has done his time and deserves a second chance. But thats just my opinion.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I don't think anyone would disagree with you on that. The point is that he has never been a very good QB so why would you bring him in to MN? He has always been the most over rated player in all of sports.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well he is a 3x probowler

Yeah, hes not the best ever, but he still is good enough to start in the NFL right now. Theres alot of worse starters out there than him...assuming hes about the same calibur as before prison.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not making light of whatever anyone else did but, he abused animals in a very cruel manner and should sit in jail for a long time.

The black culture thing is a vaque at best. Lets all be honest, he did it for the money as the the dog fighters do. How much can I make no matter what I do to a animal.

He is nothing but a animal himself for what he did.

We should place him in a cage with a pitbull and see who wins as long as its not that big of a deal.

It's not the pitbulls fault they are what they are or what they are used for as the human race has bread them to do this.

He is serving his time for the crime he commited. Guys like Vick are the real animals and not the dogs.

Vick makes me sick.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i agree with the majority here that it would be bad news to get vick....

BUT.....

just think about the possibilities he could have for the vikings... when we drafted t jack, what was it that everybody called him? basically a slower, worse version of mike vick... wouldn't it be better to have to faster and better mike vick?

think of the possibilities when we would line up in the I formation, have vick fake a handoff to A.P., A.P. runs to the left, attracting almost everybody on the defense, and then vick rolls out to the right in a bootleg... or line up in the shotgun with A.P. to the left and chester taylor to the right...

the possibilities are endless... i think the bigger picture here is the vikes need to get a new QB, whether it be by draft, trade, or free agency.. i think its clear that we are going no where with TJACK as our QB... we have too much great talent on our team to go with a mediocre QB and slash our potential to be great down to nothing...

i agree with everyone that vick shouldnt play in the NFL again basically, but as a sports fan, i can only dream of the possibilities and potential a guy with his capabilities could bring to a team like the MN vikes...

let the trashing begin.......

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

people that kill and torture dogs or any animals should be tortured themselves...they killed and tortured the dogs because they wouldn't kill other dogs but keep and cherish the ones that are straight killing machines.

i know plenty of people that own dogs that have a "bad rap" because of their breed and they are just as nice as the next door lab or retriever...its how they are raised and the bloodline used in the breeding which isn't good when the dog fighters choose their breeders by how ficious they are and how well they can kill...they just torture or kill the ones that don't have the killer instinct.

just because our justice system is messed up doesn't mean he was treated unfair for his actions.

i hope no one wants him and he ends up broke on the streets.

if the vikes ever signed him i would never watch a single game or buy merchindise...i'd hope the zigmeister is smart enough not to get him in here...it would go against everything he's trying to accomplish around here.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sled, it went alot deeper than that. He also HUNG underperforming dogs and also DROWNED underperforming dogs as well. They found alot of buried dogs on his property.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Vick hung and drowned dogs, report says

Suspended Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick used family pets as “bait dogs” to train his pit bulls, and he took part in hanging three fighting dogs who did not perform well, according to a U.S. Department of Agriculture report.

The 17-page report, released Friday, provided new details on Vick’s participation in Bad Newz Kennels — including the revelation that pet dogs were used for training purposes, according to an ESPN report.

“Vick, (Purnell) Peace and (Quanis) Phillips thought it was funny to watch the pit bull dogs belonging to Bad Newz Kennels injure or kill the other dogs,” the report by the USDA’s inspector general-investigations division says.

Vick is serving a 23-month sentence in a minimum-security federal prison camp in Leavenworth, Kan., on a conspiracy charge relating to the interstate dogfighting operation he helped run on a property he owned in Surry County, Va. He is scheduled to be released on July 20, 2009.

He still faces two state charges — one count of torturing and killing dogs and one count of promoting dogfighting. Each carries a five-year maximum prison term. He is expected to plead guilty to those at a hearing Tuesday in Surry County Circuit Court and, under the terms of his plea agreement, and will receive a three-year suspended prison term and a $2,500 fine (which would be suspended if he pays court costs and maintains good behavior for four years).

By resolving the pending state charges, Vick would qualify to be moved to a halfway house to serve out the remainder of his sentence.

The new USDA report says that, in mid-April, 2007, Vick, Peace and Phillips hung three dogs who did not perform well “by placing a nylon cord over a 2 X 4 that was nailed to two trees located next to the big shed. They also drowned approximately three dogs by putting the dogs’ heads in a five gallon bucket of water.”

Vick initially told authorities “while he assisted Phillips and Peace in the killing of the dogs, he did not actually kill the dogs.”

Vick, the report says, paid someone $100 to dig two graves for the dog carcasses. “Based on past circumstances,” the report says, “Phillips and Peace did not like [Vick] to do any type of work that could injure him and jeopardize his NFL contract.”

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Based on the QB roster we fielded last year, bring on Vick.

I'd take Vick or Favre both of which are obvious upgrades at the QB position.

No chance Vick comes here anyway.

Go Vikes !

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Posts

    • I would fur it out another inch, then spray foam and finish to the furring strips.  No vapor barrier needed at that point.
    • Use 1x2 (actually 3/4"x1 1/2") PVC trim boards for firring strips on the face of studs. The PVC won't absorb any moisture and works well as a thermo break from the aluminum studs. They can be found at any of the big box lumber stores.
    • Moisture is likely condensing on the metal studs and being transferred to the paneling. Furring strips will probably be the best bet with metal studs. You can run them horizontal or vertical and then just attach the paneling to that. I personally wouldn't use a vapor barrier. Some guys do though. 
    • I have a 6.5x14 Ultra Shack. I'm guessing was built early 2000s. Had to tear apart interior walls due to moisture build up. Steel frame, with aluminum 1.5x1.5 or 1"x1" tube studs. Previously insulated with pink board foam between studs, with a thin quarter inch thick foam pad glued to the studs, then paneling glued over the top of it all. I'm thinking the issue was no vapor barrier? I have it all torn apart down to the studs. Wondering how I should finish it, use a vapor barrier such as poly? Or no vapor barrier? Any help is appreciated! Thanks!  -Nate
    • Check striker's page.  They have some of last years stuff onsale.
    • It's been awhile since I've had time to upload pictures. There has been a lot of progress made!  The siding is up and finished! The process was more difficult to manage with the bends and my lack of tape measure skill lol If i were to do the bends again I would make sure to order 2 sheets extra and order them at the length required to wrap the entire house. From the point on the nose all the way back to the middle of the rear wall. There ended up being vertical seams along the sides here, which in hind sight, isn't ideal.  One thing that i'm not sure I've noted is the bottom white trim. A lot of people use J- Channel on the bottom but you can order a trim called a step down. Which works awesome around the lower edges and doesn't fill up with ice and snow.  The trailer lights are all wired up and working. Seeing whats back behind these big trailers always drives me crazy so i bought the ones with reverse lights built in.  The maiden voyage was out into the parking lot and then back into the shop. It didn't fall apart so it was a success.  I took a few pictures of the bending process. It was a pretty simple setup. A big piece of angle aluminum secured between 2 - 2x4's with 2 clamps a bar and a big hammer worked really well. If you're going to do this make sure to add half of the rib height to whatever the measurement you're trying to hit is. And as i mentioned before, buy the length to wrap the house from the front point all the way to the middle of the rear wall.  We would clamp the bar down then hit it with the hammer to "break" the corrugations. Once they were broken it bent extremely easy.  We also got most of the lighting on the inside roughed in. I have 4 110 outlets and 2 USB plug ins for cell phone/misc charging. All of the lighting will run on 12V. I'm no engineer but, each of the lights in the picture draw 240mA so with them all on I'm thinking i'll get about 30 hours of run time on one battery. There will be 2 batteries for lighting and USB and a separate one for the heater so I should be ok for a weekend "off the grid". I'll have a generator as well to run the TV and other goodies which can charge the batteries as well.  I also picked up the material for the interior. Menard's is having their 11% sale until 10/21/17 and also a sale on their 5/16" Cedar tongue and groove. Between the two sales I got the price down to just under $1 per square foot. Apparently, they aren't stocking this specific Cedar anymore so I had to buy 3 different stores out of stock to get all that I needed. In the end I still didn't have enough to do the roof so i bought some Birch plywood to finish that part. I think a lighter ceiling will help the place feel a little bigger anyways. I got antsy last night and finished some of the cedar boards with Natural Finish Watco Danish Oil. It turned out to be the exact look I was going for. From what I've read i think finishing them all before installation is the way to go. Then once everything is up doing a quick coat of Danish to even everything out.  At this point i'm counting the Steps left to go instead of how many I have done! It's getting close to starting the fun part ( the interior). I'll keep everyone posted on the progress! 
    • My bad... How about this?   https://icefishingdeals.com/
    • Yea, I'm not sure when this project is gonna get evicted from the shop area that i'm using so we had to get it weather proof first. Ideally i think the interior first is a better approach. We ran into some issues wiring that would've been easier handling from the outside. 
    • They don't save cap space that is the whole point. The money is still spent. What it allows them to do is go OVER the cap during such time a player is on LTIR. It doesn't give them relief at all, it just allows them to go over the cap. We already have Coyle on LTIR so it wouldn't do any good to add Parise to that. That would mean two moves would have to happen when they are both healthy. The Wild could do that too, but what sense would that make because they would be forced to be compliant once Parise is healthy. Hossa is likely going to be LTIR all year. At this point I doubt Parise will be out that long. Russo did a very good writeup on it last night for TheAthletic. You can also read up on it on CapFriendly.
    • I'm on board with the others, sounds legal to me!  Best of luck hunting! Kettle
  • Our Sponsors