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I was going to buy a new Beretta since the one I shot last fall fit me better than a Browning Cynergy but just ended up getting a used Browning Citori that was made in the 70's for half the price of a new Browning or Beretta. I hate to say it, but these tough economic times are causing some people to sell their guns for pretty good prices for people who are willing to buy used.

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Make sure you get a good feel for each gun before buying one. Since the locking mechanisms are very different, they each give a unique feel and mount when handling. The Browning's receiver is much thicker than the Beretta and most people will have a specific preference. Both designs are great but make sure you know which one fits you better. Good luck!

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I know it's a matter of personal preference, but for me, guns with English/straight stocks shoulder much faster. I don't own any with straight stock, but have shot a few that felt great. I shoot a Franchi O/U and my wife has a Citori 20 and love them both. That 20 is a sweet, light little gun.

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Yes, make sure you buy a gun that fits you. The Citori 12 gauge I got felt very natural when I pulled it up with my eyes closed and even felt different than the Cynergy I tried last fall. I was going with a Beretta until I tried this one out. Best thing to do would be to visit a gun shop and pick a few different guns up.

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I hate to say it, but these tough economic times are causing some people to sell their guns for pretty good prices for people who are willing to buy used.

this is a true statement.....i went and was looking to buy one tried a few and ended up goin with a "used" mossberg silver reserve for $200 under book value and i couldn't be happier took it outta the box hit the clays course and shot 40 out of 50 so don't rule out the smaller doubles price isn't everything IMO

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I prefer Berettas strictly of fit and feel. Basically all of the Beretta 68X series have the same internals. What's different is the type of engraving etc. The lightest 12 gauge Beretta makes is the 687 Ultralight. Mine is just a shade under 6 pounds. They really buck with a heavy pheasant load, but they are definitely pleasant to carry all day. One thing to keep in mind is that they only have a 2 3/4" chamber. If you are looking for a 3" chamber and a more all around (slightly heavier) gun, I'd say the White Onyx or Silver Pigeon S is a good choice. They are basically the same gun, but the Silver Pigeon S has a little more engraving.

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I would check at local pawn shops and also watch the classified ads in the paper. Maybe Reeds in Walker also. I have found in the Northern part of the state anyway, that the smaller gun shops tend to run cheaper on gun prices than the big ones like Gander, etc. I got a Benelli Nova at one place for nearly $70 less than Gander was selling it for.

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I agree on the Super Black Eagle as I already own one. Just been wanting an O/U to add to my arsenal and for Phesant and clay shooting.

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I shoot a Franchi Alcione and really like it. Made by Beretta now. It beats me up a little when I shoot trap, but don't feel a thing when I shoot at a bird. Lightweight too.

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What is the difference between the Franchi, Beretta, and Brownings? Are they all simular quaility? I looked at a few guns at Joes not too long ago and they talked the Franchi down sayting they were a decent gun but nothing like the Berettas and Brownings.

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I have shot my stoger m-2000 now for three seasons and love it, same action as the SBE, just in a little cheaper case, light enough for me all day, and runs around 400 brand new compared to 1200! Stogers condor O/U got my attention a couple years ago but haven't had the opportunity to handle one or see one in action.

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Agreed Hubercita and Koonie.

I had my eye on a White Onyx that was new and at about $1300. The next group of B guns were at about $1700. By the time I recd the proper permission for the Onyx, it was gone. What sold me on the Franchi was the ability to put a 20 ga barrel on the same receiver for about another $400. Of course I can't find a 20 ga barrel anywhere. I think that I paid about $1250 used but in great shape.

Like others have said, it really comes down to what fits and feels right. The Beretta and Franchi fit me, the Browning didn't.

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I have a Franchi Griffone I picked up on clearance at GM a few years back, and it has been great. Light weight, shoulders great, and has been reliable. Just feels good. It does kick a little bit, but I think that is the trade off for having a lightweight gun. Haven't regretted that purchase one bit.

If I remember correctly, Franchi is kind of the midlevel gun from the Berretta/Benelli/Franchi/Stoger family.

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I have a Remington Premier Field grade that I purchased two years ago. I shoot year around in training plus hunting and love the gun..

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Exactly, see what fits. The Berettas are an exelant choice but so are others, I strugleg to have one pull up and fit nice till I tried out the Cortonas which are made from the same people as cesar gurinie.

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