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jparrucci

U of M Study on Ethanol

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Has anyone else read the reality check on the local 4's online site? Some pretty interesting facts regarding the costs of not only ethanol, but gasoline. According to the study, it takes more energy to make a gallon of ethanol than gasoline, so looking at this from a pure green angle, ethanol is worse than gasoline. But, if you look at the subsidies, gasoline actually recieves far more subsidies than ethanol does. How about we stop subsidizing BOTH industries, and let the market decide the price. I've always been against the entire corn ethanol idea, from the subsidies, taking food and making it to fuel, TOPSOIL runoff/groundwater pollution (I think this is the biggest thing overlooked), and the ineffeciency of the fuel itself. When are some of those are the "green" bandwagon going to open their eyes and see that it is actually worse for the enviroment than gasoline?

Another side note is the amount of subsidies both industries get...astonishing. How is that even possible. I would rather see the price of oil spike back 2 dollars more a gallon, if we were paying the price it is supposed to be. Even I can't defend the oil companies making record profits with the amount of money taxpayers subsidize that industry. It is insanity.

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Wll your so called green people have been against ethanol form the start! Just for the stated reasons! Its the Farm program that's pushin it with the subsidizing,We Pay they profit!

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Turn all the corn in the country into ethanol and you barely make a dent in hydrocarbon use. Switchgrass or whatever else isn't worth it either. Band-aid for a bullet wound. The only people that are for any form ethanol are the companies making it, the farmers getting paid for it, and politicians with lined pockets.

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