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how are the new humminbirds working

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well guys just wondering how the new ice45 and 55's are working.i have a lx5.how do they compare.

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I have never used the LX-5, but i have the ICE 45 and i really like the flat screen, digital display, zoom feature, and dual cone. It is way better than my FL-8. In fact, I like it so much that it has caused some fights with my girlfriend. I pay more attention to the 45 than her. I am getting worried that she might take a BFH to it when I am sleeping!!

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I like my Ice 35 so far. But yeah that support is a pain. So you don't even need it?

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I haven't heard a lot of reports on them yet but a lot of guys are sure excited about them. They are great looking units and are loaded with features.

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The reason that Hummingbird has a support cable is because Vexilar has a patten on the ducer hanging from a float with a single cord. MarCum has the Patten on the swing arm, So, Hummingbird needed to come up with something else. Hence the support cable.

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The reason that Hummingbird has a support cable is because Vexilar has a patten on the ducer hanging from a float with a single cord. MarCum has the Patten on the swing arm, So, Hummingbird needed to come up with something else. Hence the support cable.

Thank you for the reply and the answer very much. I love my Bird so far! But I wish the soft cases were more abundant, but I found one.

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I sold my LX-5 to get an Ice 55 and I am not dissappointed. I sure don't miss the SFL feature of the Marcum and LOVE the display which is where your attention is most of the time. I use the Vex color scheme and have not played with the 6 color view much but it might help when looking at the bottom content. I don't even use the float. It's nice to know the depth at a glance. The zoom is a little different than the Marcum but it is just as good. I caught plenty of fish my first time out so I won't complain.

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Hi everyone, I'm Eddie, a technical specialist with the Marketing department from Humminbird. I will be monitoring this ice fishing forum (along with several others) to help you with any questions, comments etc. concerning out new Ice Fishing flashers.

The one thing that I can't stress enough is to make sure the transducer is horizontal and not tilting to one side or the other. This is causing the jig/bait to disappear quickly and you must bump the gain up a lot to see it again. Also, if you're fishing down to only 10' or so use the Wide beam. Deeper than 10' I suggest using the narrow, higher power Narrow beam.

Although I am obviously pro Humminbird, we have done side by side comparisions with the competitors and we are every bit if not better than anything I have seen. There is an awful lot of propaganda being put out there right now. So, please contact me with any questions you might have.

One other note: I have seen on other forums where they quote us as saying we have 1/2" target seperation. That is a misprint on our boxes and on our HSOforum. This will be corrected. We advertise a target seperation of 2 1/2". The 1/2" referred to is the Display seperation on the screen itself.

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hi Eddie, i was thinking of getting the ice 45.is there really much difference between the 45 and 55.

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I hope the Hummingbirds turn out to be a solid unit, but it is just too early to tell (whether they have been designed over the last few years or not)Good luck to all that bought them, like I said, I almost did too.

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I can answer your question Bob. There are only a few differences between the 45 snd the 55. The 55 has the target line you can set, the 55 has 6 colors, the 55 has more power, and the 55 comes with a soft pack (the 45 has a rebate right now where you can get the soft pack for $8). Those are the only differences between those units.

Personally I think the 45 is s better value, unless you really want those features or that extra power.

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I have not seen the hummingbird units yet. Who is the closest dealer to Buffalo MN.

Ed, Can you give me more info on The side imaging units thinking of redoing my ranger. I have been a LOW. guy for many years, heard alot I would really like to see one on the water.

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Was out yesterday with my Dad who just picked up a 45. He loves it! Seemed to work really nice and more importantly it didn't interfere with my FL-18 in any way. We fished side by side about 6 feet apart and no problems. I really liked the backlight and the slightly larger screen as well. All in all it seemed pretty nice. He did remove the cord that holds the transducer before hand so he didn't have any trouble with having to turn the gain way up or any of the previous complaints concerning that.

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One of the nicest features about the 45 and 55 is the digital screen. I hope that Vex and Marcum switch to this feature on their future models.

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Yeah the digital screen would be nice but I felt the Ice 35 was all I needed. The Humminbirds have a very clean well built look to them, and I'm satisfied I have a soft case coming in the mail!

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could someone post a pic of the cable support system on the hummingbird. just curious as to what the stink is all about.

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Hey Eddie,

Would you say the support cable is optional or is there a real chance of doing damage without using it? I am not rough with it and would prefer to use it without the support cable.

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JigginJim, Looks like there are several places that stock our ice flashers in your area. Don't know why my response isn't with your question...must have hit the wrong reply.

The best way to find one is to go to Humminbird.Com and select "Find A Dealer" from the top tool bar. You can key in your City/State and see all of the dealers.

SI is a totally different subject so I hope I don't break the forum rules. There is absolutely nothing like Side Imaging. I have heard of some guys are actually using it for Ice fishing as well. SI is pretty much like going to the lake bottom and taking a picture... we have 5,8 and 10" versions ranging from $1000 to $2800. You can get all of the Navionics maps pre-loaded at the factory for an additional $200.

I will be glad to answere any of your questions.

Thanks.......

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I have seen on other forums where they quote us as saying we have 1/2" target seperation. That is a misprint on our boxes and on our HSOforum. This will be corrected. We advertise a target seperation of 2 1/2". The 1/2" referred to is the Display seperation on the screen itself.

Eddie, can you explain the 1/2" display separation to me? I'm thinking of getting an Hbird hardwater unit and would like to know more.

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To explain Display Seperation for .5 inches use the following example:

Our Ice Flasher has 526 Segments on the display.

If you are in 20 feet of water you take the depth and divide it by the number of segments and multiply by 12 to get the value in inches. (20/526) x 12 =.45). This gives you a little better than 1/2" (.50) per segment.

If you had fewer segments you would have a higher target display per segment.

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