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Ughhh that makes ya sick, my only question is could the officer have stepped in before the deer was shot? If so the deer could be taken at a later date and time hopefully legally.

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Have to admit, I like their way of calculating the fines. Although $13,000 doesn't quite seem like it's enough.

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THat is a huge buck, but do ya think that is the smallest DNR officer around those parts? He looks like he is on his tip toes reaching over the side of the truck.

13K in fines is not enough in my book, but I had a student today who told me I was strict, but it was a good thing that I was.

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I'm glad they at least caught the guys. Hopefully the MN DNR puts a formula like that together to fine poachers. How do they decide the fine right now?

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I think that's one of the first decent fines i've heard of. Ya hear of a guy keeping 100 walleyes and gets a $1000 fine. I think $13k is applicable.

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Unfortunately I think the DNR would have stepped in sooner if they could have. Sounds like shining is illegal there too and the DNR would have been happy to issue a shining citation and maybe taken their guns or something. Now we've lots another amazing deer to the Wall of Shame. At least that magnificent deer can be used in education and publicity of the TIP line.

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THat is a huge buck, but do ya think that is the smallest DNR officer around those parts? He looks like he is on his tip toes reaching over the side of the truck.

I bet he's a scrappy little feller though!!!!

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Please correct me if I'm wrong.

It is LEGAL to shine a spotlight on deer, provided it is prior to 10pm and my shotgun is unloaded, cased, and in the bed of my pickup. Is that right?

I know there are additional rules regarding buildings etc. I love to take my son after shooting light, and go shine deer just to look at them, but if it's not legal, please let me know.

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how about this,,,

Don't shine at all, then your safe, AND ethical...

How is shining with no intention of poaching, unethical?

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I don't know...I shine deer but I've know to this that its illegal after 10 pm and a can't shine a week before deer opener-Not sure on that one, and then no weapons at all in the vehicle, bed of the vehicle, in the trunk.

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I found it in the regs, pg 32:

A person may not cast the rays of a spotlight, headlight, or other artificial light onto a highway, or into a field, woodland, or forest to spot, locate, or take a wild animal while possessing, either individually or as a one of a group, a firearm, bow, or other implement that could be used to kill big game. The EXCEPTIONS to this regulation are:

a) a Firearm that is unloaded, cased, and in the closed trunk of a motor vhicle (if it doesn't have a trunk, it must be in the rearmost portion of the vehicle)....

there is a B) and c)...

With or without a firearm, or bow, no person may cast the rays of a spotlight, headlight, or other artificial light into a field, woodland, or forest to spot, locate, or take a wild animal between the hours of 10pm and 6am from sept 1 to december 31.

There is more information about residential property, and buildings, and posted "no shining" property...

But the regs would indicate it is perfectly legal for my son and I to enjoy shining before 10pm, with my gun unloaded and cased well in the back of the truck bed.

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I think the fine is way too steep. It's only a deer and they're kids. If we were talkin about a doe here I'm sure you guys wouldn't be so worked up. They put way too much value on those trees comin out of his head. I think seizing the gun and ammunition is steep enough, maybe revoke their ability to buy a license for a year, lesson learned; but 13000$ and possible jail time is ridiculous. These guys are kids, and it's not as if they shot the last deer around...

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If one were to take that advice, those kids would never learn. They need to hammer hard and then maybe they will learn. It is not an excuse because they are young. They have to learn and at that age, its a good time. For years they would place a small fine on these type infractions and it did nothing.

If it was up to me, they would be in jail or hundreds of hours of sentence to service time.

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To be frank I think that's [PoorWordUsage], most kids would straighten up after an encounter like that. I know losing a firearm alone would put me in my place. It might be a different story if it were a grown man pullin that stunt. I don't think anyone should be fined 13,000 for any buck, and I also think jail space would be better utilized by locking away criminals who commit far more haneous crimes than poaching a deer. I do like the community service idea though.

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They are 18 and 20 years old. They should know better by that age and deserve every bit of that 13K fine. I'm glad they are making an example of them and hopefully it will deter others from breaking the law.

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