ice fishin man Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 First, I never have hunted coyote's before and its seems like something I would like to try! So I was reading the rule book today, and from what I understand was that the season in open all year round? Is this true? Second what would be the best gun to have for shooting coyote's? And could I get away with a shotgun for now? {not trying to sell any pelts} Third what would be the best time to go out and scout/hunt for coyote? Also is there anyone who hunts the south metro and is population in the south metro areas?Thanks,Ice Fishin Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CASTnBLAST Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 No closed season on coyote but there is on fox which you are as least as likely to see. As far as best guns I have four dedicated predator guns from .17HMR bolt, 223/12ga.over under,AR 223 and a 22.250 bolt it just depends on when/where/how I plan on hunting as which to bring. The 17 is a bit light for coyotes great for fox while the 250 is a little hard on fox,I'd say a 223 is a good all around caliber for predators. A fur buyer would rather have a pelt harvested with a shotgun than rifle so pelt damage with a shotgun is not an issue. I use #4 Buck and don't care to get into any debates about which load is best it works well enough for me. I've taken at least as many predators here in Minnesota anyway, with a shotgun as rifle but hunt most often at night with a full moon/snow. It's of course much easier to scout under snow conditions but never to early to be gathering permission in likely looking areas. It's going to take quite awhile for things to settle down out there now after the blaze orange invasion so now wouldn't be an ideal time to hunt. I hunt way north of the cities but have gathered there are plenty of critters down that way but likely a fair amount of pressure too since this type of hunting has grown sooooo much lately. Your welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleyes12 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 No closed season, if your new to the sport I would just pull out the old deer rifle,(if you have one) and hunt with that till you decide if you like the sport or not. Late november, into december can very though calling, due to deer hunters, gut piles, ect. Get a call, and giver heck! Don't get fustrated!!! Coyotes can do that to a guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutII Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I would think that a DEER rifle would be a poor choice at this time of year. After hunting hours during deer season could be hard to explain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleyes12 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I would think that a DEER rifle would be a poor choice at this time of year. After hunting hours during deer season could be hard to explain. yep, my post was ment for after deer hunting! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CASTnBLAST Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 Heck my understanding is you can hunt deer with what were formerly considered varmint/predator calibers 22.250s' etc. Irregardless not a real good time to be out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neighbor_guy Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 I hunt mostly at night with a shotgun. #2's or BB's. If if works to kill a turkey at distance, chances are it will kill a 'yote. I was under the impression that if you were hunting after sundown it was shotgun only. Am I wrong? Also, are the rifle zone/shotgun zone boundries no longer in effect after deer season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CASTnBLAST Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 If using artificial lights I believe you have to use a shotgun, not sure never tried it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerstroke Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Shotgun only if hunting with a light. Rifle/shotgun boundary is not in place. If you want to use your deer rifle, check out "predator loads" for the different calibers. Many of the big brands make lighter slugs for shooting the bigger calibers. I have a 30-30 leveraction, but my dad has a nice .257 that I've thought about borrowing for yote hunting. I've never done it, but I'm thinking about it. I'm in the SW corner of the metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
picksbigwagon Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Powerstroke is correct, at night with a hand held light it has to be a shotgun, you can use the full moon and snow at night with a rifle (I have yet to try that one) as far as a dedicated rifle, 22-250, 223, 243 are all good choices. even the 204 has been written about a lot in other places. Depends on how much you want to spend. Like was mentioned, get a couple of calls (closed reed for beginning out) and go after them. Kind of like turkey hunting and deer hunting combined. They have great eyesight and even better noses. Frurstrating? and then some. You can't be out hunting during deer seaon at night, and if you are out coyote hunting during the deer seasons (firearm season that is) I believe you can only use a rimfire cartridge (which is not good) I have to get the regs out of my truck if that doesn't answer you questions. I hunt SE MN, due to family being able to help with kids, etc. I am hoping to get out more this winter in the metro area. Getting out and knocking on doors is the best start. I just acquired an extra 30 acres on sunday after talking with the neighbor to my wife's uncles 40 acres. I didn't even ask, just introduced myself and talked with the husband and wife for a while. They offered......I am pretty sure I will kerplunk a coyote or two on that ridge in two weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sticknstring Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Anyone have any luck sitting over a deer carcass during shooting light? I'd like to take one with the bow to be tanned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan Becklund Posted November 14, 2008 Share Posted November 14, 2008 I talked to a CO a year ago about the light and shotgun law. In the law you must also be using a electronic caller...not a mouth call. I know it does not make any sense but that is how it is written. Good Luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CASTnBLAST Posted November 15, 2008 Share Posted November 15, 2008 What could possibly be the mentality behind that law? Unless the state thinks we are all going to rush out and buy new electronics and once again get their hand in our wallets! Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benbosh Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 maybe its so if someone is out at night and is using sometime of mouth call to howl so some one-who-thinks-I-am-silly doesnt sneak up on the guy howling and shoot him without identifing their target 100%.. just my thought but who knows.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom7227 Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 Page 32 of the regs:A person hunting for coyote or fox from Jan. 1 to March 15 mayuse an artificial handheld light under the following conditions:• While on foot and not within a public right of way• Using a shotgun• Using a calling device• Not within 200 feet of vehicleI'm not sure if all of these things must be met in order to use a light, or if you caan use one if any of them apply.I am wondering why anyone would want to use a light anyway - any ideas on that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tealitup Posted November 24, 2008 Share Posted November 24, 2008 I think all of them must be met; I am not sure why the calling device - I think this stops people from walking around the woods trying to stalk hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jigginjim Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 shotguns for yotes? it I was going to sell the fur. I would think the pelt would have a bunch of small holes all over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walleyes12 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Shotguns are great on coyote pelts, 99.9% there is not fur damage and no need to get the needle and thread out. I perfer shotgun coyotes!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish&Fowl Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I think all of them must be met; I am not sure why the calling device - I think this stops people from walking around the woods trying to stalk hunt. How would they prove you were using a calling device? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom7227 Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 What's with the light? I still can't see it being used in a hunt. Getting in or out maybe. But otherwise it just doesn't make sense to me for yotes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingV Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 I was involved in getting these light laws passed and maybe can shed some "light" (no pun intended) on them.Page 32 of the regs:A person hunting for coyote or fox from Jan. 1 to March 15 mayuse an artificial handheld light under the following conditions:(This sentence was to keep potential bow hunting deer poachers (who could still register a deer up to Dec 31st) from shining a deer while supposedly coyote hunting. They have to keep us honest...)• While on foot and not within a public right of way(So we are not shooting from a vehicle using the vehicle lights.)• Using a shotgun(Purely a safety consideration forced on us by the legislature. But we don't brag about being able to use high powered rifles at night while hunting under the full moon (without lights) and we sure don't want to lose that "liberty" do we? So please use good judgement while doing this type of hunting!)• Using a calling device(Vague enough language that allows any type of caller, whether electronic or mouth call. Owls can be dangerous at night while using a mouth call. Be careful of your head!)• Not within 200 feet of vehicle(Again, to keep potential deer poaching and shooting from a vehicle from happening. It also gets you away from the road.)Lights are another effective tool for predator hunting, especially when the full moon periods come with clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CASTnBLAST Posted November 25, 2008 Share Posted November 25, 2008 Fairly short season,too bad that with just like anything else a few idiots would likely ruin it for everyone else. Would have extended the hunting beyond good snow cover.I thought it odd you would have to be using an electronic call as opposed to a mouth call but you never know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodsCountry14 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 I have a question, hope thats alright. I think I am going to give coyote hunting a try this year. Can I use my deer rifle (30-06) just to start? If so, is there a round in that caliber that would be better than the next? I'm thinkin lighter the better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walleyeguy32 Posted November 26, 2008 Share Posted November 26, 2008 The 30/06 will more than likely rip the pelt up on yotes and fox on anything less than a few hundred yards, unless the entry and exit wounds are within the area without any bones, or a headshot is possible. When I started hunting I also used a 30/06 (my only gun) and found the best load for me as far as accuracy and vital shots was the 150 grain bullet. Don't use the 55 gr accelerator! It explodes the fox on impact and makes a maximum hole on coyotes, difficult to tell what they are or were when you go to pick them up. I am not sure but using the /06 with the largest FMJ they make might not be too bad of an idea either. With a bigger bullet the shock likely will do the internal damage needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScoutII Posted November 27, 2008 Share Posted November 27, 2008 • Using a shotgun(Purely a safety consideration forced on us by the legislature. But we don't brag about being able to use high powered rifles at night while hunting under the full moon (without lights) and we sure don't want to lose that "liberty" do we? So please use good judgement while doing this type of hunting!)I would think using a Large caliber rifle at night, in unfamiliar territory would not be a good idea. Why are we not allowed to Rifle hunt deer STATEWIDE? DO THE RIGHT THING PLEASE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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