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ZEEK1223

Having trouble with my Rem 1187

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The gun will eject the shell and put a new one in the chamber, but the action wont shut all the way. To fire a second shot, you have to nudge the bolt forward 1/4 inch then it will fire. I have taken the whole gun apart, and cleaned it extremely well. I really dont know what to do at this point.......

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Did you pull the trigger mechinism? and clean the bolt & slides? Dont use grease.

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I have pulled the whole gun apart, and cleaned very well. Everything seems fine until you fire the gun. Just that 1/4 inch nudge on the bolt.

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Are you using gun cleaning solvent to remove all of the gunpowder residue ? What are you using as a lubricant before you put it back together ? The oil you are using might be great for protecting your gun but to thick for the action to operate and you need to find something that is a lower viscosity or more slippery.While it might not be the best for storage you might want to try some fishing reel oil or something along that line just to see if it helps.

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Is this happening with 2 2/4, 3" shells or both? Reloads?

Recycle shells by hand, pull the bolt back and release it. Is it slamming a shell back or is it retuning slow? If so you have gum, debris, or reload that is swelled, something there is slowing down its return. With any auto loader you oil the parts and wipe dry.

If its recycling by hand then you have something going on with the gas operation. Worn or dirty barrel seal or barrel seal activator. Dirty gas ports in the barrel. Somewhere you can find out what size drill bit is used to clean by hand(do not use a drill)using a drill bit.

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Zeek1223, Curious as to what dram loads you're shooting? I have an 1187 Special, and only encountered that problem once, while shooting clays. I was using a low base, Remington dove load and I had to keep hitting the bolt foreward for the 2nd shot. Clean the gas port well, try a higher base(or better quality round), see what happens then. Phred52

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I always shoot federal 2 3/4inch. where is the gas port?

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The loop on the barrel that goes over the magizene/gas piston tube.Remove the barrel look through it look closely where that loop is you see 2 dimples (I believe 2) Holes take a paper clip and bend it to go into the loop and into the ports.Do it with a clean barrel,then push the paper clip through the ports while the barrel muzzel is over white paper.(to see any crud that came out)

I'm assuming the gas ports are the same as a Mod.58 and 1100 Rem.

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My 1100 was doing a similar deal with not ejecting shells. Cleaned the ports and it worked flawlessly yesterday at a game farm in LeCenter. (little plug)

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I always shoot federal 2 3/4inch. where is the gas port?

I think that's the problem there. I have an 870 mag and I cannot use Federals. My gun becomes a 1 shot handloading weapon.

Switched to any other brand and I can reload faster than an auto.

Don't ask me why, I am not that technical but I suspect shell length (regardless if 2 3/4, or 3, or 3 1/2)

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Zeek1223, Yep, Sparcebag has it nailed! Good job Sparcebag! Be careful when you reassemble, I believe there's a rubber o-ring in there too. That'll slice easily. Those shotguns need to be seriously cleaned to keep functioning correctly. Phred52

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I have cleaned the ports that you described, but I live in the city, and have not been able to shoot it. Un-fired shells run through just fine:(

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I have cleaned the ports that you described, but I live in the city, and have not been able to shoot it. Un-fired shells run through just fine:(

Just go over to Brooklyn Park after dark and pump a few into the air. no one will even notice.

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If it's not locking up all the way it's probably not the gas ports, that system would keep it from cycling fully open and not ejecting. Check the spring and rings for crud on the shell carrier tube, and check the extractor to make sure it is moving freely, they stick and won't clear the shell head if stuck. Then make sure the chamber is nice and clean for a full lockup. clean the trigger group well and DO NOT OIL THE TRIGGER GROUP! It's a little known fact to not oil trigger groups on remington firearms, it is even in the manual.

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Another thing it could be... if it is anything like my Gold.... there is a spring in the stock, that is what pushes the bolt back into place. The gas only opens it. If that spring is crudded up, it will do exactly as you describe - it won't shut all the way or will shut slowly.

You take the butt plate/pad off using screwdrivers.

Then you need a socket with an extension, to reach down into the hole to reach a nut that holds it all in place. I think mine is 9/16...

Loosen that, and the stock will come off. Thoroughly clean the spring and bolt, and I even gave my spring (and my borhters Gold too) a bit of an "extension" tug. I won't recommend it, but can say that it worked wonders on both of our guns, not it cycles faster than when new.

Put it back together, and if you want even a bit o locktite on the nut. Just don't strip the screws for the butt plate.

So, that could be it too, not sure on an 11-87, but sounds awfully close to what happened to mine. I have done it twice, as it if amazing how much [PoorWordUsage] can get back in there - mud, powder, even little reed pieces.

Good luck!

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