Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
  • RECEIVE THE GIFTS MEMBERS SHARE WITH YOU HERE...THEN...CREATE SOMETHING TO ENCHANT OTHERS THAT YOU WANT TO SHARE

    You know what we all love...

    When you enchant people, you fill them with delight and yourself in return. Have Fun!!!

Sign in to follow this  

Recommended Posts

So I was out yesterday and notice some swans coming in. I identified them (after looking them up) as a mute swan. These swans are classified as a non-native invasive species in Minnesota.

Does this classify them as being able to harvest them? or are they protected? I could not find any information about them on the DNR site.

thoughts?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I know you used to bevable to shoot them but, dont know if you still can cut em

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

An interesting question. I thought it was legal, but like you, could not find anything to prove it.

It does say that any bird not specifically listed at unprotected is protected but I don't think that would apply to invasive species.

I sent an email to a couple people at the dnr and will post the responce as soon as I get one.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Good luck with that mount! I cant imagine that they would be legal to shoot, but this would'nnt be the first time I was wrong! Good Luck if you can!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The safest course of action would be to call the local CO and clear it with them. I can just imagine the calls to the tip line when you pull the trigger on a mute swan.

Good luck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Even if legal, I don't think I'd roll the dice with that one. You screw that ID up and you're in some big time trouble. Not to mention anyone watching will see a swan go down. To each their own, but be careful.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Have you seen a mute swan? It would be very hard to screw that up, unless your blind I guess. grin

Still waiting to hear from the DNR, it ussually takes a day or 2 to get a response.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Making the ID on a moving swan at 30-40 yds out? Not worth the risk. If I see a swan go down I am on the phone with TIP in about 3 seconds, they can make the ID.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would pass on it, but not because it is legal or not legal, it just looks cool!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If I were sure of the ID, I think I would take them. Many years ago, there was a private release of a handful of them in Chesapeake Bay. They now number in the thousands and are ruining the habitat for the native birds. The Game&Fish out there tried an eradication program and the screaming from the bunny-huggers made them stop it. Its best to solve a small problem before it gets larger-- and gets its own press agent and cheering section.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If it flys it dies.

Huh, tell me how its flying after u get tagged? Its bound to happen. Been there, done that. (wasn't a swan, some little bird I never heard of, thought it was a snipe).

Saw someone shoot a swan on opener, he got tagged, and we got checked. No tags here, but I don't think he was too happy smile

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted By: HeIsLegend
If it flys it dies.

Originally Posted By: browndog
water swat them

You two are REALLY COOL! And FUNNY! and NOT TROLLS! CONGRATULATIONS!

Yes, I do shoot swans. In ND. and water them there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, if I go to the same place sometime this week should I shoot it?

And yes, the bird WAS for sure a Mute Swan - it was only about 10 feet from me.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, I do shoot swans. In ND. and water them there.

If you wanna legally take a bird go right ahead. And if you want to water swat them go right ahead too. I don't, but you are free to do what you want in accordance with the law. Just leave the MN swans alone and we are good.

The "if it flies, it dies" or the "shoot and release" mentalities don't help the cause of responsible hunters. They bring a bad name to those of us that ID birds before shooting and harvest what we kill. People that broadcast these immature mentalities, regardless of whether they follow it or not, might as well be collecting a check from PETA or some other anti-hunting group. They sure as [PoorWordUsage] aren't helping my cause and provide ammunition, so to speak, for those against my cause.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

So, if I go to the same place sometime this week should I shoot it?

Here's what I would suggest... contact your local CO and tell him there has been a Mute Swan frequenting your waterfowling hole and ask him. I don't care how many people online here tell you that you can or cannot shoot the swan, contact the CO as he will be responding to the complaint of someone shooting a swan.

The Mute Swan is indeed on Minnesota's Invasive Species list. This material is available on the MN DNR HSOforum for your happy reading. I just spent a bit of time researching this and could NOT find anywhere in the waterfowling regs or the invasive species information the right to shoot one of these birds. It does however tell you to contact the Invasive Species office or your local CO if you encounter an invasive species.

I would definitely start with a phone call to the CO however. They may have a procedure in place for dealing with these birds.

I've personally never had to deal with this so I don't know the answer, however I agree with some other folks here about calling TIP if I see anyone shooting ANY kind of swan. I would do my due diligence before pulling the trigger on any big white bird. wink

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Originally Posted By: browndog

Yes, I do shoot swans. In ND. and water them there.

If you wanna legally take a bird go right ahead. And if you want to water swat them go right ahead too. I don't, but you are free to do what you want in accordance with the law. Just leave the MN swans alone and we are good.

The "if it flies, it dies" or the "shoot and release" mentalities don't help the cause of responsible hunters. They bring a bad name to those of us that ID birds before shooting and harvest what we kill. People that broadcast these immature mentalities, regardless of whether they follow it or not, might as well be collecting a check from PETA or some other anti-hunting group. They sure as [PoorWordUsage] aren't helping my cause and provide ammunition, so to speak, for those against my cause.

You are like the guy that told me I couldn't use my Mojo because the lake I was on had a WMA attached to it. And I had to reply that if I can't use my Mojo you can't use your outboard because those are not allowed on WMA's either. Or are you the guy that reported me to the CO because I was not picking up my birds and when the CO met me at the access I said these ducks(four drake mallards, 1 gadwall and 1 spooner). Just because I was not running out after my ducks each and every time I shot one down like you and instead I was sending my dog to get them. Just because someone does something different than you does not make it wrong or illegal.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Just because someone does something different than you does not make it wrong or illegal.

Find where I said this. Find where I implied this. You can't.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You didn't "say" it but the negetive attitude towards other hunting "ethics" that were differnt than yours that conveyed that attitude.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  



  • Your Responses - Share & Have Fun :)

    • Yup so far this season would have had 2 nice ones with a shotgun I just keep telling myself archery is life lol
    • Doesn't get any better than that. Pic says it all. Congrats  
    • Well not the most attractive option but when the kids are out playing in the sprinkler you could get a roll of nonslip pool matting to roll out then put in the garage during the fall-winter? 
    •   OK, then how about stripping the sealer if that is what makes it slippery.   After a few years it really isn't necessary, since the concrete is mostly cured by then (yeah it keeps curing for decades but most of it is done in a year or two).     I guess if you like the glossy look then maybe the sand in the sealer thing is worth a try.
    • Season ended just like I thought it would and happy Leipold held true to his word and moved on from Fletcher...he did some good things but overall did a poor job building a team that can compete at a high level unfortunately.  It will be interesting to see how the new GM handles this situation...getting rid of under-performers will not be easy and what in return? Going to be one of those down before heading back up deals. Coyle will be the first to go IMO, Granny can go as far as I'm concerned...gotta sign Zucker even though he was terrible in the playoffs, Nino is a question mark, Staal might need to go with the up year he had but long in the tooth and now would be the only time to get anything for him, Ennis (terrible player) will be bought out, Foligno (terrible) probably not tradeable with his contract...enjoy the ride Wild fans!
    • We packed four of us in the blind and had a blast!  Just about ready to give up and gave "one last call" only to have the birds blow up not 30 yards away from us.  One of the gobblers rubbed against the blind for two feet as he walked into the deeks- pretty dang cool!  Ryan made a perfect shot and dropped the bird in his tracks.  
    • Ryan.pdf The pdf shows up as a link for me.  Is that ok Borch?  
    • Twins are 33-91 against the Yankees since 2002! Its unbelievable how awful they play against them.    Stanton absolutely murdered that hanging curveball for a HR last night.
    • I was looking for reviews last night but only found a handful and they didn't really give me that much info. They seemed to be overall positive reviews but all were written after recently applying it so no info on longevity.