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This 2008 fiscal year budget was a reported 407 billion dollar deficit. Just wondering how you think we can stop this over spending year after year. And which candidate you think is better to handle this deficit and over-spending?

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This 2008 fiscal year budget was a reported 407 billion dollar deficit. Just wondering how you think we can stop this over spending year after year. And which candidate you think is better to handle this deficit and over-spending?

answer to first question. veto pen. something that has been in hiding in 8 years

answer to second question. Mccain

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This 2008 fiscal year budget was a reported 407 billion dollar deficit. Just wondering how you think we can stop this over spending year after year. And which candidate you think is better to handle this deficit and over-spending?

A vote for McCain is a vote for Bush III. There is a saying that goes something like this; "if you repeat the same experiment but expect a different result, than you are an one-who-thinks-I-am-silly". Let’s not repeat the same experiment. smile

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either it was gallup or rass poll were it showed that more people are starting to reject the idea that a vote for mccain is a vote for bush 3. what will the dems do if they lose that line???

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Kid. you use the blanket statement a vote for McCain is a vote for Bush111. What FACTS to you have to back that up? Please do not tell me that McCain has voted with the president 96% of the time bla bla. because voting with the pres. is the same as saying voting with the republicans 96% of the time. And as you are well aware Obama has voted with the dems something like 98% of the time. We all know pols vote there party, nothing new there. So please do not use this meaningless

point and give us some good FACTS to back up you point that McCain will be Bush111.

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Originally Posted By: brdhunter
This 2008 fiscal year budget was a reported 407 billion dollar deficit. Just wondering how you think we can stop this over spending year after year. And which candidate you think is better to handle this deficit and over-spending?

A vote for McCain is a vote for Bush III. There is a saying that goes something like this; "if you repeat the same experiment but expect a different result, than you are an one-who-thinks-I-am-silly". Let’s not repeat the same experiment. smile

Well then, a vote for BHO is a vote for Carter the 2nd. eek

Give me a break, two totally differant people. I guess if it maks ya feel good and that's the only way to get votes, then so be it.

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Getting back to the original post....I don't know how to stop it and I don't know which candidate will be better, but I'll still be voting McCain!

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So Kidd - why do you think McCain will be Bush III? Granted they are from the same party, but have different thoughts. McCain grew into his politics during the Regan era, not the Bush era.

His political statements have been more conservative - almost Regan like.

However, to me, his age is a factor - a President at 80? second term 84?

Obama brings a different view to the Presidency - I also think he brings the ability to change the world's view of the United States, whereas McCain is stuck with being in the same party as Bush.

I like how Obama wants to bring home troops from Iraq, however, his idea of using the $$ from the war to pay for programs irks me. Pay down the debt - give money back to the citizens - just because you found an income stream does not mean to spend it.

This election, or next, is a perfect time for a third party to become established. There are many of us that would like to take certain ideas from both parties and form them into one.

I watched the O'Reily show via youtube and saw Obama back down from Bill - and courted his thoughts. That is not Presidential.

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And the war in Iraq and the other in Afganistan aren't even included in this number. Those have been supplemental funding of around 10 billion a month that is kept outside of the regular budget for obvious reasons.

The biggest way to save money is to end the war(s).

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Wow, get back from my meeting to a firestorm of responses. Well I guess I know what the hot spot is for you McSame backers. LOL laugh

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either it was gallup or rass poll were it showed that more people are starting to reject the idea that a vote for mccain is a vote for bush 3. what will the dems do if they lose that line???

Well seeing as the reason they say it is based on historical data, I don’t know why they would ever loose that line, unless of course Sara the lipsticked book burner censors the congressional record. wink

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Kid. you use the blanket statement a vote for McCain is a vote for Bush111. What FACTS to you have to back that up? Please do not tell me that McCain has voted with the president 96% of the time bla bla. because voting with the pres. is the same as saying voting with the republicans 96% of the time.

Those are the facts and the reason to call him Bush III. Thanks for the support. grin

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Well then, a vote for BHO is a vote for Carter the 2nd.

Give me a break, two totally differant people. I guess if it maks ya feel good and that's the only way to get votes, then so be it.

Ah yes, the infamous Sandman “I know you are but what am I” defense. Thread topic was talking about the current administrations bankrupting of America and what presidential candidate would change the moronic direction the Republican policies have taken us.

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So Kidd - why do you think McCain will be Bush III? Granted they are from the same party, but have different thoughts. McCain grew into his politics during the Regan era, not the Bush era.

His political statements have been more conservative - almost Regan like.

However, to me, his age is a factor - a President at 80? second term 84?

Obama brings a different view to the Presidency - I also think he brings the ability to change the world's view of the United States, whereas McCain is stuck with being in the same party as Bush.

I like how Obama wants to bring home troops from Iraq, however, his idea of using the $$ from the war to pay for programs irks me. Pay down the debt - give money back to the citizens - just because you found an income stream does not mean to spend it.

This election, or next, is a perfect time for a third party to become established. There are many of us that would like to take certain ideas from both parties and form them into one.

I watched the O'Reily show via youtube and saw Obama back down from Bill - and courted his thoughts. That is not Presidential.

Wow, Tealitup, nice post. You’re going to have to give me some time to wrap up some work before I can put any reasonable thought to a reply. Again, nice post. smile

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My question is what is congress going to do about the 407 billion dollars.

I am surprised Obama is not throwing out taking all the money from the top 13 richest americans. That would give us 315 billion, and that is only from 13 people!

13 Richest Americans

1. William Gates III - $59.0 billion- made his fortune from Microsoft - Harvard dropout

2. Warren Buffett - $52.0 billion - made his fortune from Berkshire Hathaway (property and casualty insurance) - Masters degree

3. Sheldon Adelson - $28.0 billion - made his fortune in hotels & casinos in Las Vegas - city college dropout

4. Lawrence Ellison - $26.0 billion - made his fortune in Oracle (computer software, technology)- college dropout

5. Sergey Brin and Larry Page - $18.5 billion each - made their fortunes in Google - both have Masters of Science

6. Kirk Kerkorian - $18.0 billion - made his fortune in investments of buying and selling hotels, resorts, airlines, MGM to name a few -high school graduate

7. Michael Dell - $17.2 billion - made his fortune in Dell computers - college dropout

8. Charles Koch and David Koch - $17.0 billion each - made their fortunes in oil, commodities - both have Masters of Science degrees

9. Paul Allen - $16.8 billion - made his fortune in Microsoft and other investments - college dropout - 54 yrs old & single, likes rock & roll music, gives to charities - hmmmm, better keep an eye on this one - nahhh, probably gay - I don’t know though, Gates didn’t get married until recently - what do you think girls???

10. Christy Walton, Jim Walton, S Robson Walton - $16.3 billion each - made their fortunes the old fashioned way - inheritance! from none other WalMart

11. Alice Walton - $16.1 billion - she must be the black sheep of the family to have been cut out of $200 million from the WalMart dynasty

12. Steven Ballmer - $15.2 billion - made his fortune in Microsoft - another Microsoft dropout but this time from the Master’s program at Stanford

13. Abigail Johnson - $15.0 billion - made her fortune in the family business of Fidelity Investments, America’s largest mutual fund company. I should call her - I bet she could give me some advice on my pre-tax 401(k)!

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That is your only reasoning behind the statement "a vote for McCain is a vote for Bush111" is that he voted with his own party 90% of the time! ( just checked the %) So what does that make Obama because he voted his party over 98% of the time a free thinker? Talk about a double standard. Heck lets not let the facts get in the way of trying to make a point smile

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The difference being that the Republican policies has gotten us into this mess, not the Democratic policies. So a vote for McCain would be a vote to further the Republican policies. That was my point. wink

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The Republican (Bush) policies have dug this Country a HOLE!

Time to fess up to the Facts!

But then again who cares about our children?

Let them pay off the Deficit.

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So anyone who voted with the dem's is brilliant right musky? what a silly comment. In all my years this is the most I have ever seen the lib's acting like children that aren't getting there way. We must be doing something right!

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Ohhhh great the children are tossed in the argument again. Gezzz when they want to raise our taxes for educations, if you vote No, you are against the children. Or a vote for the a sports stadium is a vote against kids... Ahhh you silly libs...

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I somewhat agree. The "children card" gets played way way way too much in these discussions/debates. It's becoming a crutch for people's arguments.

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Yepper, some people just do not have the backbone to admit Bush Buried this Country with a Huge debit....!

Thats OK though...we call that delusional which is quite normal with people Like Bush & Cheney...;-)

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The federal deficit is expected to hit $407 billion for fiscal 2008 (which ends at the end of this month) and $438 billion next year. Still, the deficit is expected to be only 3% of GDP, which is in line with the average of the last 30 years.

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So Kidd - why do you think McCain will be Bush III? Granted they are from the same party, but have different thoughts. McCain grew into his politics during the Regan era, not the Bush era.

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