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Question...

Who is really influenced by these hidious campaign ads?

This is not a partison question at all, the DFL and GOP ads equally poor. I am embarrassed by those from "our side" and offended by those from "your side", and assume most of you are as well.

Of course most of us posting on these topics are pretty well entrenched in our positions, and not likely to be swayed. But the fact is campaign ads are run for a reason. They work.

It is pretty sad to think that the election will likely be decided by the currently undecided folks that cannot see through the incredible transparancy, and are eventually influenced by these 30 second sound bites!

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I am not influenced at all. I don't watch much television in the first place, and come September in a presidential election year I'd rather have my next-door neighbor jerk my teeth with no anesthetic and a fence-pulling pliers than visit the mayhem on TV.

Problem is, many who are not involved in learning what candidates are really about (that info is out there all over for anyone who cares) are influenced by these ads.

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I think that to some degree the ads provide a means for one candidate to express a concern about the other(s). Unfortunately they go so far to the extreme that they twist every little thing they can into more than it really is plus they fail miserably in telling us, nay selling us on why we should pick them over the other candidate. The spend too much time telling us why the other candidate isn't worthy and not enough time telling why they themselves are. As a result we're still in the dark and many if not most of us vote against one rather than for another.

Bob

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Does the MTV Music Awards Show count as an ad??

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The only ad that has caught my eye so far is the Norm Coleman ad.

The one where the bowler is tying his shoes while waiting at the lane. Then the actor (bowler) states the first achievement norm got was he brought back the NFL grin.

I love the NFL, but should that be the “high light” achievement of Norm????

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NHL actually.

Norm was mayor at the time. I do believe if Norm was not there, there would probably be no NHL in MN.

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NHL, NFL.

Considering the results of the respective teams, which of these do Minnesotans really identify with? Ooops, subject change! gringrin

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The(y) spend too much time telling us why the other candidate isn't worthy and not enough time telling why they themselves are. As a result we're still in the dark and many if not most of us vote against one rather than for another.

Bob

Right you are Bob, but the sad thing is it works. Willie Horton, Read my Lips, Swift Boat Veterans etc.

Karl Rove may have perfected it, but it sure didn't start with him.

It's the continued dumbing down of America. I don't see it actually working with most on this board though. We're too well informed. grin

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Thanks

Napa grin

I should have just typed the Wild grin

Had the Vikes on my mind yesterday

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Originally Posted By: BobT
The(y) spend too much time telling us why the other candidate isn't worthy and not enough time telling why they themselves are. As a result we're still in the dark and many if not most of us vote against one rather than for another.

Bob

Right you are Bob, but the sad thing is it works. Willie Horton, Read my Lips, Swift Boat Veterans etc.

Karl Rove may have perfected it, but it sure didn't start with him.

It's the continued dumbing down of America. I don't see it actually working with most on this board though. We're too well informed. grin

Which all supports my final point in the original post, the election will probably be decided by uninformed unengaged masses influenced by the most effective 30 second sound bite.

This is also why I question the old assumption that it is "everyone's duty to vote", and really dislike election day "get out the vote" efforts. The way I see it is if you care enough to be engaged in the process and educate yourself on the candidates you will not need a reminder, encouragement or incentive to go out and vote. And if you do, maybe it is a vote not worth casting. I believe everyone has a right to vote, but we should also respect their choice not to.

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I think there or mostly about keeping the persona name out there. Besides that I think they are horrible and I just turn the volume down or change the channel (TV and Radio) I agree both sides are equally bad.

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They're a joke. Just bashing each other. Why don't you just come out and say what you stand for and what you plan on doing?

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They're a joke. Just bashing each other. Why don't you just come out and say what you stand for and what you plan on doing?

Because its easier to make the other candidate look bad.

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When will we start hearing ,"My people did'nt place that ad"

When will the low blows start? Some have from McCain & palin.Remember Kerry let em ride, no responces! Did the Dems learn a lesson? Obama is already avoiding some degrading comments and he states it,avoids it.The Reps use it as a way to create doubt and pushed it last elections.They will start,but when? Will Obama? I think he could be degrading and derogatory! But will he?

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I love the Norm coleman ad where the kid is giving franken [PoorWordUsage] for not paying his taxes. Very funny stuff

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I believe everyone has a right to vote, but we should also respect their choice not to.

I could agree with that provided those same individuals refrain from voicing their opinion about how their government is run.

Bob

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I could agree with that provided those same individuals refrain from voicing their opinion about how their government is run.

Anybody who pays one penny of tax and lives within this "free" country legally should be able to voice their opinion of how our government is run. Vote or no Vote.

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So I have notice something in the Coleman vs Norm ads.

Norm was not supposed to win in Minnesota (other high profile people were asked not to run this time around)- the DFL thought he could bring in alot of money to spend on the campaign; thus making the RNC to spend more of there own money in the campaign, which reduces the overall amount they could spend elsewhere.

Now, the DFL has sponsored and used its own money in this race. I think they believe it has not turned into a "possible" win category.

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All I can say to someone that complains about a candidates (employees) performance when they didn't take the initiative to be part of the decision to hire them is, "Cry me a river."

Those that don't vote sit back and wait for everyone that does make the choice but then have the gall to tell us we made a bad choice? Sorry, their opinion doesn't hold salt.

Bob

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Sorry, their opinion doesn't hold salt.

It doesn't have to hold salt, and an opinion doesn't even need to make sense, but it better be able to be expressed freely and without repression regardless of ones knowledge, experience, or involvement of whatever topic is at hand.

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Okay, I'll give you that much. They still have the right to have their opinion but it means absolutely nothing to me.

Bob

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Bob and Duff,

You are both right, but I still stand by my opinion that anyone that needs to be proded to vote by a "get out the vote campaign" we can do without. I don't care if they complain the rest of the 4 years.

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Here is one that I had emailed to me that I thought was pretty cool.

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