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Chode2235

I saved $1500 by swtiching to Obama.

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Despite what McCain and Co. keep spouting, the reality is that under an Obama administration income taxes would be decreased for over 90% of the population. The hard working, middle class people that need them the most, like me.

Under the various Obama/McCain tax calculators out there (the simplist @ obamataxcut.com), my family will save anywhere from $1500 - $2100 dollars a year.

Say what you will about policy positions, but this is money in my pocket. Which will really help my family out.

Another reason I am supporting Barack Obama, because it makes cents. Ha, I crack myself up.

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I have 2 kids, current plan is a 3500 per kid tax credit, with McCain it would be 7000 per kid. Double savings

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Despite what McCain and Co. keep spouting, the reality is that under an Obama administration income taxes would be decreased for over 90% of the population. The hard working, middle class people that need them the most, like me.

Under the various Obama/McCain tax calculators out there (the simplist @ obamataxcut.com), my family will save anywhere from $1500 - $2100 dollars a year.

Say what you will about policy positions, but this is money in my pocket. Which will really help my family out.

Another reason I am supporting Barack Obama, because it makes cents. Ha, I crack myself up.

And we have these numbers from where.........obamataxcut.com

I have not seen a detailed tax breakdown in which Obamma (or McCain for that matter), have given any more then fragmented information on their tax numbers. And with either, we really don't know since I have a hard time believing campaign promises will become anything other then smoke you know where.

I also know that any tax break for someone equates to either a funding defecit, or a tax increase for someone else, maybe me, maybe not, but that money comes from somewhere.

Last point, the complaints about the Bush Tax rebate made me pucker up faster then a homophobe at a gay bar, so you may want to get some thick skin, the hammer is coming sleep

Ohh I almost forgot....The reality.....Where is the emoticon laughing so hard he pees himself.

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Despite what McCain and Co. keep spouting, the reality is that under an Obama administration income taxes would be decreased for over 90% of the population. The hard working, middle class people that need them the most, like me.

Under the various Obama/McCain tax calculators out there (the simplist @ obamataxcut.com), my family will save anywhere from $1500 - $2100 dollars a year.

Say what you will about policy positions, but this is money in my pocket. Which will really help my family out.

Another reason I am supporting Barack Obama, because it makes cents. Ha, I crack myself up.

Saw the headline and got a good laugh. That was good chode.... grin

One thing though..........

That's income tax.

There's a thousand other "taxes" out there. That's not say you wouldn't save more money under him......

But, if you save 1500 a year in income tax, but the rest of it accumulates and costs you an additional 2751.87, wheres the benefit? Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that's what would happen, but everyone is so focused on "income tax".......what about the rest of it?

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Good points, I am mainly trying to point out that the blanket statement by the republicans that Obama would raise taxes is likely a lie for 90% of Americans, as the exact opposite would be true.

I think its a scare tactic, and dishonest. I am primarily trying to shed light on that.

Obama's HSOforum has much more details, and there are more detailed tax plan calculators out there.

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Obama wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't the fact that he gets to appoint three supreme court judges, and wants to raise taxes to get socialized healthcare.

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Good points, I am mainly trying to point out that the blanket statement by the republicans that Obama would raise taxes is likely a lie for 90% of Americans, as the exact opposite would be true.

I think its a scare tactic, and dishonest. I am primarily trying to shed light on that.

Obama's HSOforum has much more details, and there are more detailed tax plan calculators out there.

Sure they use scare tactics. They have both(Dems and Repubs) become very adept at using them. As well as blanket statements, half truths(I'm not sure any of them are bold enough to outright lie), and sling [PoorWordUsage] because each one thinks theirs is the only way. Not to mention, they want their own piece of history.

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eyeguy, thats the "new politics." smile

I think pols from both parties have finally figured out that middle america can't pay for everything.

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eyeguy, thats the "new politics." smile

I think pols from both parties have finally figured out that middle america can't pay for everything.

Thats why we need someone who will cut out all of the UNNEEDED spending. Then we only pay for thing we need.

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Obama has clearly stated that he will raise taxes on anyone who pay's wages . That means every single small buiseness owner will see a tax increase weather they like it or not. When you consider how many people work for "small buisness" this could be a major problem for a lot of people who have a hard enough time staying in buisness.

So I guess if you got fired by the small buisness you work for because of thier tax increase.... you saved NOTHING!!!

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Neighbor guy, that's not fair, those small business owners are all the evil "rich" that we have to have class warfare over. It will be their greedy fault if they have to lay off employees, not the great savior Obama...

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The problem with the Obama logic is he is going to let the Bush tax cuts expire and then instill his own - Is that still a tax cut?

Also he is going to dramatically increase the wealthy's tax burden. Problem with this - Who employees the Middle class. The more you tax the rich the less our economy grows / jobs go overseas, ect. I do not feel the rich should pay any less than I do looking at the %'s. But I do not believe they should pay 15% more - That is not 100% fair either. I want my boss to make a lot of money. Things do trickle down hill.

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We could be in Germany...anything over a set dollar amount is taxed at 100%...ie if that number is $300,000 and you make $400,000, then you pay 100% taxes on the extra $100,000 and your usual taxes on the $300,000. There would really be a lot of whining going on then.

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We could be in Germany...anything over a set dollar amount is taxed at 100%...ie if that number is $300,000 and you make $400,000, then you pay 100% taxes on the extra $100,000 and your usual taxes on the $300,000. There would really be a lot of whining going on then.

We could be "Never Never Land" too.

I suppose someones gotta pay for the free dope, and penicillan shots for the girls working Hamburgs red light district....

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Things do trickle down hill.

Please cite some examples of this. The statistics I have seen have shown the income gap expanding since we first tried the experiment with Reganomics. Not to mention declines in other favorable macro economic indicators under Republican administrations.

Economic growth rates over the 20th century clearly show a correlation to Democratic administration. From the post war period through Clinton. Despite what the republicans want to tell you, the overall economy has done much better with Democratic administrations focus on providing economic security to the middle class.

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You are right Chode. We should tax the heck out of the rich, just like the owner of the company that I work for who happens to be a millionaire.

That would save me loads of income tax when he closes our already floundering company and puts me out of a job. Then I won't have to pay any income tax at all!

Thanks for helping me see the light.

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I rate this thread Negative 5 Stars for accuracy and common sense.

Democrats Tax and spend faster then the money come's in.

Republicans just call it a FEE and Spend more then the Dems do!

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I rate this thread Negative 5 Stars for accuracy and common sense.

Democrats Tax and spend faster then the money come's in.

Republicans just call it a FEE and Spend more then the Dems do!

A direct quote from a guy with a Viking as an avater. grin

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You are right Chode. We should tax the heck out of the rich, just like the owner of the company that I work for who happens to be a millionaire.

That would save me loads of income tax when he closes our already floundering company and puts me out of a job. Then I won't have to pay any income tax at all!

Thanks for helping me see the light.

What he said!!! If my boss dosen't make money, I don't make money.

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I'll ask a dumb question. If you had a business and were making a decent profit (the whole idea behind a business) and then taxes were raised where you got minimal profit, would you keep the business or shut it down? What happens to the folks that work for you?

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Sandman, you would do what was right, you'd cut your wage back to nothing, move out behind the dumpster in the back, give the employees a 50% raise, and go stand in line at the soup kitchen, after you were done rallying for raising the minimum wage ofcourse, and other noble causes........... .

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Sandman, you would do what was right, you'd cut your wage back to nothing, move out behind the dumpster in the back, give the employees a 50% raise, and go stand in line at the soup kitchen, after you were done rallying for raising the minimum wage ofcourse, and other noble causes........... .

RIGHT ON!!!! grin

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Wow, three pages of missing the real point. There is no good choice here. It's more about the spending than the taxes. How did we get here again?

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