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Why are you voting for for McCain or Obama

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Ok, I have read more posts then I care to admit to about why you aren't voting for the other guy. Lets hear why you are voting for the candidate you support.

Perhaps this thread can even be kept free from useless debates. I know you all think you have "THE ANSWER" and I know you all think you are the only one who gets it but lets keep this rather simple. Explain in plain terms why you are voting for your candidate and DO NOT criticize or comment on others posts. This thread should only require one single post from each person.

Here is why I am voting for Obama.

8 years of Republican presidency have resulted in the following...

1. A war that was started we can not win. The cause we are fighting for has changed 3 times since the start of the war. First it was to pacify the threat Iraq posed with its Weapons of Mass Destruction that cause was found to be flawed after no weapons were found. Second cause was to liberate the Iraqi people, well they are free now. Third is to fight the terrorists I guess the plan is just to stay there until we kill them all, thats not a war you can win. You kill one terrorist and it only creates 3 more out of the family members of the dead.

2. The american tax payer being given a bill for billions of dollars each month to keep said war going. I don't know about you but there are alot of causes in america that could use a few billion dollars (education, health care, research into alternative fuels, etc...).

3. An economy that is leaving middle class families in a worse position every year. No it is not just a "Mental Recession"

There are more reasons but any one of those would be enough. Am I 100% sure Obama will solve every issue? No of course not but I whole heartedly believe that the best thing for this country is for a change in leadership and right now Obama represents that.

Now lets hear why you are voting for your candidate.

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I am voting for Obama because:

(1) I am afraid of what four-eight more years of Conservative control of the White House will do to the Supreme Court, which is already taking a hard right turn.

(2) Universal Health Care. When PETA & business are clamoring for the same thing, I think we all ought to listen. When health care costs are costing GM competitiveness (OK, amongst many other issues) to the tune of thousands of dollars per car, & we spend more than any other industrialized country on health care per capita - the system is broken. Let's try to fix it.

And my fears:

(1) I'm all for gridlock. I have a fear that Obama & the DFL are going to match or exceed the horrific spending put forth by the Bush Regime over the past eight years. The debt is eating up hundreds of billions of dollars per year. You want a tax cut? New programs? Let's start paying down the debt, then we'll talk.

(2) Trade! I don't like the anti-trade *(&% I'm hearing from the left that Obama's picked up on. Free trade has allowed the U.S & countless other countries to flourish as never before over the past two decades. I don't want the clock turned back to 1974.

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Im voting for McCain..

Because I want someone as President who does what he says he is going to do.

Has experience in the Military in a time of war. Understands how to win a war..

Won't leave before the job is finished.

Won't sell out our troops because it's politically expedient.

Doesn't look at polls to determine what he knows needs to be done.

Is fiscally conservative, and has no shady connections with outside influences

Is not afraid to put someone like Sarah Palin with my same conservative ideals on the ticket.

Can put country first, self last.

I admit I wasn't to revved up about McCain before this weeks convention, and a big part of that is that I see in Sarah Palin a future for the Republican Party.. She shares most of my same Ideals and principles, and that has really got me excited to see what might come of it..

My Issues with McCain..

Immigration.. I do not want a amnesty policy, and I want to control our countries borders.

I don't want a Bi-partison President.. I want a Conservative President first.. Once we beat the Liberals into submission, then maybe we can solve the countries problems instead of adding to them..

I want to control the deficit, cut spending by downsizing government, balance the budget, and pay down the debt... I don't see any real platform from either party in this regards..

I will vote for McCain to Give Sarah Palin a chance to blossom into the leader I think she will be down the road.. McCain will do fine in holding office.. he is trustworthy..

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I'm voting for Barr!

Only because I want neither of these clowns running our country and I want a change!

The only change I can see is getting another party in the mix. This party may not be it either, but at least it'll be a start. The more votes they get the more support for the next round and so on!

Call it a wasted vote if ya want....I look at the 2 "big" dogs just as much of a waste!

And if enough people vote, ya never know!

Take a chance....Let's see what happens!

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I will vote McCain.

I do have some socialy liberal viewpoints but my main reasons for this vote is I am also fiscally conservative. I am also a strong supporter of our fine men and women in the armed forces. I have a strong belief in our right to bear arms. Having lived in Alaska, I am in support of drilling not only off shore but in ANWAR as well.

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McCain

I really don't want the estate tax reinstated to the level it once was. I would like for it to be repealed all together.

It took over 8 years for my uncle to pay the taxes for my grandpa's estate because he didn't want to have to sell the farm to pay it all at once.

When my Father in law passes (he is in his 70's right now), I don't want my hubby to have to sell our century farm to pay taxes on something already paid for.

My brother is currently a major in the army. He likes what he saw when in Iraq when he was there in July. Bagdahd was pretty peaceful. From what he has told me, the surge worked, and the Iraqi army is gaining confidence. If we pulled out too soon, it would be bad for all involved.

I like that Sarah Palin knows what it is like to live in a small community, and knows what grassroots politics can look like.

I am a little nervous on how they stand on agricultural issues, but I have to believe it is better than the other candidates.

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I'm voting for Barr!

Only because I want neither of these clowns running our country and I want a change!

The only change I can see is getting another party in the mix. This party may not be it either, but at least it'll be a start. The more votes they get the more support for the next round and so on!

Call it a wasted vote if ya want....I look at the 2 "big" dogs just as much of a waste!

And if enough people vote, ya never know!

Take a chance....Let's see what happens!

Gotta say I pretty much agree with what you said. I am not sure if I am going with a 3rd party yet, but I really am not fond of the choices we have.

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November is a ways off still, but as it stands right now McCain gets my vote.

1. As a veteran who has served in a war, and a whole lotta various "conflicts" I recognize we are right now a nation at war. We need leadership that isn't wishy washy. No, I don't want to be at war, but I don't want this ingrown toenail either, but wanting it and having it are 2 different things.

2. I feel between the 2, McCain has more experience. Down the road Obama may the better pick in the experience part, but not right now.

3. I don't really think either candidate is great, but the lesser of the 2 evils, in my mind, is McCain.

4. I'll say it, I just don't like Obama. He's a good speaker, but I don't like him.

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McCain

I really don't want the estate tax reinstated to the level it once was. I would like for it to be repealed all together.

It took over 8 years for my uncle to pay the taxes for my grandpa's estate because he didn't want to have to sell the farm to pay it all at once.

When my Father in law passes (he is in his 70's right now), I don't want my hubby to have to sell our century farm to pay taxes on something already paid for.

My brother is currently a major in the army. He likes what he saw when in Iraq when he was there in July. Bagdahd was pretty peaceful. From what he has told me, the surge worked, and the Iraqi army is gaining confidence. If we pulled out too soon, it would be bad for all involved.

I like that Sarah Palin knows what it is like to live in a small community, and knows what grassroots politics can look like.

I am a little nervous on how they stand on agricultural issues, but I have to believe it is better than the other candidates.

I also hope you dont loose your farm. I also hope you dont have any kids, because I wouldnt want you(whom I dont even know) to loose any of your children in senseless wars that WILL be started without ever looking at ANY of our other options.

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You guys all love Palin, cause shes from a "small town" and shes "regular people". Fine. She's all that and more. GOOD. But the fact is, a Vote For Palin is a Vote for Mcain and that is a vote for WAR! If you vote for Mcain. Then shut off your PC and head down to your local recruiting office and put your COUNTRY FIRST. If you vote for MCain and he gains power in this country then you had better go and Fight YOUR WAR. because if you are expecting others to do it for you. then you are hypocrites and about as unamerican as they come. Ill go ahead and post this video of your "buddies" talking war.. But you guys wont watch it. Your voting for Mcain and your head is in the sand. But at least Palins hot. right.

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I also hope you dont loose your farm. I also hope you dont have any kids, because I wouldnt want you(whom I dont even know) to loose any of your children in senseless wars that WILL be started without ever looking at ANY of our other options.

She has kids, as do I. Teen-aged, and may possibly serve in the military.

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Obama, He is the closest candidate running to get us out of this mess called Iraq.

A candidate that has health care under his radar

A candidate that wants to help the middle class with tax cuts.

Those are the big tree issues for me ranked in importance to me.

I should mention Bar is being considered as well for his stance on the war

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You guys all love Palin, cause shes from a "small town" and shes "regular people". Fine. She's all that and more. GOOD. But the fact is, a Vote For Palin is a Vote for Mcain and that is a vote for WAR! If you vote for Mcain. Then shut off your PC and head down to your local recruiting office and put your COUNTRY FIRST. If you vote for MCain and he gains power in this country then you had better go and Fight YOUR WAR. because if you are expecting others to do it for you. then you are hypocrites and about as unamerican as they come. Ill go ahead and post this video of your "buddies" talking war.. But you guys wont watch it. Your voting for Mcain and your head is in the sand. But at least Palins hot. right.

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Lets keep this thread to simply posting who you are voting for and why. There are countless other threads here attacking each others postions and reasons for voting one way or the other. Lets leave this one clean and simple.

Who are you voting for and why?

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Let's stick with who you want to vote for...not slamming others for their decision.

Ok?

Obamo may cut taxes for the middle class...but he will get us elsewhere. Property taxes will go up. So will taxes on income from property you sell.

No war is "good", but some are necessary. I believe Iraq was necessary.

I was a supporter of Obama...now I am have converted (about 2 months ago).

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Obama, He is the closest canidate running to get us out of this mess called Iraq.

A candidate that has health care under his radar

A candidate that wants to help the middle class with tax cuts.

Those are the big tree issues for me ranked in importance to me.

Mess in Iraq?, we are WINNING,, you know victory, the thing obama and the democrates feared most! Gezzzzz look up the news stories, heck even the liberal rag papers are forced to report it now.

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As nofishfisherman (cool handel by the way) asked for I stated what was asked for And I think think the thread is a very good. thread I think we should leave out the arguments. We may get a good picture on what is important on ones mind.

I know it is hard not to argue ones position I know I had a hard time keeping my trap shut

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McCain - I don't want liberals controlling all branches of government.

I don't want the government running health care.

I don't want to see an increase in captial gains tax and dividends. Thats our personal savings we are talking about.

I don't want to see the exemption of taxes on the sale of our homes to go away.

I simply think I can control my own finances better than the government can.

I believe the #1 job of government is to protect it's citizens from outside threats. We have enemies that want to see this country go down. (many of whom are in our country right now) I think McCain is far better suited in that role than Obama.

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McCain

-He is PRO-LIFE

- My brother is serving in the Marine Corp and is stationed near Fallujuah in Anbar Province, which was just turned over to Iraqi control this past week because of the success of the "Surge" that McCain was a proponent of and Obama was against. McCain understands that we must leave Iraq as victors and not waving a white flag. We must finish the mission for the over 4000 soldiers that made the ultimate sacrifice fighting for our country no matter how long it takes.

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McCain

pros: pro life, national security, energy, Palin

cons: illegal immigration, economy, age

Obama

pros: eloquent speaker, idealistic, motivated

cons: Biden, pro choice, national security, economy, energy, apparent lack of common sense

I was undecided until the vp selections. Now I will definitly go with McCain

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A candidate that has health care under his radar

A candidate that wants to help the middle class with tax cuts.

That, I have to say, is the biggest reason I won't vote for Obama. Do you honestly think that we'll all get big tax cuts and yet still be able to pay for a socialized health program??? Your dillusional to say the least. Where do you suppose that money will come from?? The rich?? You libs. are so far out in left field it's amazing.

Oops. Almost forgot the vote. McCain/Palin...Pro-Life, Economy, Energy Policy, Pro-Gun. There's my vote.

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I'm so proud of your brother for his service to this country.

That was a terrist strong hold and now thanks to McCains leadership it's under Iraqi control.

1. McCain hates war-but isn't affraid to fight one.

2. energy policy that includes nuclear power. Drill baby drill.

3. Smart pick for VP that shows courage.

4. foregein policy that world leaders respect

5. Tax cuts in the right places that will promote jobs and prosperity.

6. finding new lines of employment for bad teachers.

7. Doesn't allways follow a party line.

8. Depth of Chartacter that only fellow POW's know.

9. Cindy will make a wonderful first Lady

10. doesn't cater to special interest groups or legislation that is packed with useless pork. (look out Oberstar)

11.Has reached across party lines many times

12. Has the right stuff to be commander and chief.

13. He is not a smooth talker just straight talker

14. Pro-life

15. Probalbly will only serve one term

16. doesn't have ties to people like Ayers and Tony Resco.

17. is more concerned about cheering americans instead of germans.

18. won't stand for the bash america crowds worthless banter.

19. running mate can fish and gut a moose.

20. recognizes the true potential of our great country and what we have done and will do for others in time of need.

that's enough for now, I'll get serious later in the post.

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I have to say I am undecided at this point, I am going to have to watch the debates, presidential and vice presidential, to get a better grip on this, if the election was this upcoming Tuesay, I would have to vote for a third party, I'm afraid.

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Do you honestly think that we'll all get big tax cuts and yet still be able to pay for a socialized health program??? Your dillusional to say the least. Where do you suppose that money will come from?? The rich?? You libs. are so far out in left field it's amazing.

We all got big tax cuts and even a rebate in the mail and yet still able to pay for an Iraq war....errr, wait a second... Nevermind! wink

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