Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
MN Shutterbug

MARINERMAGNUM, this one is for you.

14 posts in this topic

Plus a couple more. Shooting them with their wings open is a real challenge, especially without a pod of some sort. I'd get him in focus and hold the camera as steady as possible, until he finally opened his wings. Next time, I use a monopod. wink These were all shot with the 100-400 lens.

2798516774_5e946524e0_o.jpg

2797655067_513cbec1c9_o.jpg

2797660231_2de0aa2081_o.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hope it's ok that I looked at these too XT. grin The open wings do look nice. Good shootin'!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

No problem, mmeyer. I just wanted to dedicate the first one to MM, due to me challenging him to capture one with wings open. As soon as I saw the monarch, I knew I had to attempt the shot myself. Would you believe I actually have a sore back from holding the camera still, for the time it took him to open his wings?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Rats!

I had some spotted tonight,open wings and all,while we were cruisin the gravel road on the golf cart. They are hangin out on some purple colored plants. Ran out of time tonight,but I'll try tommorow night.

You done good!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Very nice! I know how difficult that task can be!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mike, very nice shots!

The key to getting the whole butterfly in focus when flattened is to get the sensor completely parallel to the plane of the butterfly with wings spread. At or near the lens's minimum focus distance, depth of focus is razor thin even at f5.6 or f8, so parallel comp is a big deal.

That's often hard with the 100-400, which won't focus within six feet, because you generally have to get pretty well above the butterfly to achieve parallel. Since I'm not tall enough for the NBA (I'm 5-9), I've actually carried around a short stepladder to get me high enough to get parallel with the 100-400. On the other hand, using a macro can get you the right angle in those cases, but then you're VERY close to the butterfly, and they can spook. So it's six of one, half dozen of the other.

Most often, they'll perch with wings closed and will open-and-close very quickly. Making sure you're parallel as mentioned, don't lock focus until the wings open slightly, then lock focus on the thorax and trigger a burst with the camera on high speed burst rate, keeping the shutter button depressed until the butterfly closes again. One or two of the burst will be sharp, and if you're parallel, one of those likely will have the whole butterfly in focus when it's completely flat.

Practice doesn't make perfect with this technique (perfect is every frame sharp every time), but it makes nice. In fact, if flat and totally in focus is the goal, there are WAY more in the trash than in the keeper bin.

I've actually had better luck with this handholding than with a monopod or tripod, because butterflies move around a flower a lot, and there usually isn't time to reposition all the gear fast enough to get parallel and get the shot.

I can post an example of a monarch from last week with the 100 macro that illustrates this, but don't want to piggyback images on a thread that's not mine unless it's OK with the OP.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Steve, don't you dare piggyback on my thread. All you'll do is make mine look second rate. mad

Heck man, I'm just kidding. grin Go ahead. I'm always open to learning new things. To be honest, I didn't even think about keeping everything in focus. I just wanted the shot.

MM, feel free to piggyback when you get yours too.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, mixed messages.

OK, here goes. I don't care much for this as a photo. The light was bad and the background hot-and-cold. A half hour in photoshop would tame the background, of course. The image just illustrates the concept of parallel subject, parallel sensor.

How to get this close without spooking the subject? That's another thread. wink

Canon 30D, Canon 100 f2.8 macro, iso200, 1/250 at f5.6, handheld, full frame, using the technique mentioned earlier in the thread

2798834412_0b41c5727a_o.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nice work X. Besides Steve cheated anyway, he used a fancy lens designed for that type of shot.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nice work X. Besides Steve cheated anyway, he used a fancy lens designed for that type of shot.

Yeah, he probably dressed up as a butterfly too, to get that close with 100mm macro. laugh

Nice shot XT, I don't have any good butterfly images in my files. I'll have to work on that.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Nice shot XT, I don't have any good butterfly images in my files. I'll have to work on that.

Thanks, and I don't have any good flower shots, such as you have, either. grin

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Thanks X, sounds like we both have something to work on!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Or just trade files and then have a beer. Less to work on that way wink Sorry, I'm still on pain killers laugh

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts

    •   Wanderer, you better scaddle on out of these parts before your soul gets taken and your brain gets fried too!
    •   Yeah, you better stick with Bob's girl above old timer. She wouldn't swallow what your selling either!
    • Hack Herren Lee Williamson Jones
    • Funny thread is funny.
    •   I think y'alls secret is safe in here. 
    • Combs Herren Lee Ehrler Jones JR   I would love to see Hackney or Todd Faircloth win it though. Always been a huge fan of those two  
    •   This is still, by far, the funniest thing I have ever read on these threads in a decade.
    • I like the slush. If you don't, swipe the chips on one side of the hole with your foot before you break threw and let it run for second or two.  This will flush it out.  Having some slush in a hole in shallow water on a sunny day is sometimes a benefit.  If fish are spooky on a sunny day fishing in the open put some slush in the hole.  You might be surprised.
    •   I'd give her the best, wildest 45 seconds of her life!
    • 32 HERE IN THE boat on Hidden Bay, some sunshine but it looks a lot warmer then it is. Back at the cabin after running a few errands in town. Had to go down to the Lake Iwanttobethere Bank where I slipped into Mr. Fergenson office, the bank president to approve some town transactions. I do this from time to time but never mention it but now that you know I am working in the background helping the town out I thought I would share a little of what is being done around here to keep looking good. Today I approved a pink paint job on the fish cleaning station down by the access and also one of the docks is in need of replanking so that to will get done before fishing season starts. A check was sent out to the street cleaning company and the flag on the pole in the center of town will be replaced.   A donation was made to the Ladies Auxiliary to pay for their rental and we talked about the request to resod the softball field in time for the church league season. The big check was for ten thousand walleye fingerlings to be hauled into the lake under the cover of darkness to keep them walleye guys happy. Another donation to the volunteer fire dept. And my favorite thing Mrs. Gleason to her surprise will find out that she won a contest at the bank which just happens to be enough to pay off her mortgage. Money was donated to the Lodge to pay for six membership and they will be drawn for in a contest that Gus will come up with, his job now as the manager.   A couple of new bike racks for around town, and a fresh coat of paint on the two parking spaces and a good cleaning of the meter where DOC Burriem still ties his car to when he is in town. An envelope with a couple of dollars to the Smith kid to keep helping out Ma and Pa after school with sweeping their sidewalk. An order confirming Diggers flowers for all the town’s planters and a new planter out on the road leading the way to Lake Iwanttobethere and maybe touching up the sign. Next month I will have to look at the grass contract and there was talk that the boat landing needs to be dug out some. A few fire rings may have to be ordered for the park. I enjoy being the little birdy listening to what we need done around the town as I sit behind the bar wiping out mugs with my towel. Have been doing this for a long time and I enjoy spending bucks. Makes me happy to put a smile on someone’s face. Now it is not all me the town does bring in money I just help Mr. Fergenson out when the town is a little short or I see where I can help the town out.   I have always backed the Lodge as a place where guys can go and put their feet up, not a place where people go to get money for stuff. My me donating we keep the fishing contests going. I do donate a lot to the school for things because I want our kids to enjoy being kids not having to learn how to be salesmen in the second grade trying to earn money for field trips. Of course there I have a price tag and that is they get at least one ice fishing trip and one summer trip. If they don’t have rods Masterbaiters seems to find a check for them. Now this is not a total secret, of course Mr. Fergenson knows about me and the town along with Elmer and Big Earl and Vicki at the bait shop, they also help donate or at they get the town stuff at cost. There are a lot of people out there who love to donate and a kid’s smile is all they want in return. I find that smile means a lot to me these days. My 765 birthday today, everyone now is kind of special and you might have figured it out, my birthday is the day I go see Mr. Fergenson here at Lake Iwanttobethere
  • Our Sponsors