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NASCAR Finally Does Something

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NASCAR is finally putting an end to the injustice called Toyota and forcing them to bring the HP levels down, theoretically eliminating their advantage they've had FOR OVER HALF THE SEASON.

Way to step up to plate NASCAR.....you're only 6 months late. smirk

*Nationwide Series only*

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NASCAR + Best cheaters win!.This is the only sport where all the big money teams cheat,One minnor change could mean winning or losing, It's GREAT! How many other sports are there when the officials look very closely before, during and after , measure crashed cars and come to the conclusion that everything is with in spec?

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I figured something was up with all those Toyotas finishing in the top ten?

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Yeah MWR and Bill Davis were really tearing up the field

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Yea that Joe Gibbs guy who does he think he is anyway?

Always cheating! ....lol...lol...

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I would guess this will slow down the faster Toyota's. MWR will always be slow.

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Yep, I would guess that the Toyota's at JGR will be slowing down a little.

Sifty

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Now, if the rat can still continue to win races at the same pace as before, then I will agree that he may be on to something other than extra hp.

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. MWR will always be slow.

Reutimann had the highest dyno'd engine of the ones tested. The Rat had the second highest HP.

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What's wrong with MWR? You guys are in the know more than I am - but from my view, his ownership has been a disaster.

Too bad - I always enjoyed watching him race...

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wow, 2 roush cars had more HP than the gibbs #20 (that won 9 races this year).

How many wins does Reutimann have in Nationwide this year?

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This change is for the NATIONWIDE cars.

For some reason, they haven't been taking Cup cars and dyno testing the engines this year like they have in the past... Seems like they maybe like their new 9 figure investor in the sport winning all the time.

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Does this mean another title for JJ who I was going to pick anyway?

This engine crackdown was for the Nationwide Series only. I should have posted that in the first post, but since it had previously been discussed here I made the assumption it was known. Sorry.

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Is the engine that Toyota is running not the exact same specs as all the Chevy and Fords???

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It's a newer design. Chevy has their new engine built but it needs to be approved by NASCAR first. Conveniently NASCAR has put that approval process on the back-burner while other (new) manufacturer takes advantage of the power difference.

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This change is for the NATIONWIDE cars.

For some reason, they haven't been taking Cup cars and dyno testing the engines this year like they have in the past... Seems like they maybe like their new 9 figure investor in the sport winning all the time.

Not entirely true...they have been dyno testing the Cup cars, but they're not finding the large discrepency in HP numbers in Cup like they did in Nationwide. If it's less than 5 HP, they don't deem that significant.

And,

Toyota's Cup engines have been making (on average) 3 HP more with the regular engines, but they've been down ~4 HP with the restricted engines. The Toyota Nationwide engines were making 15-16 more HP than the rest.

JGR engines are turning more RPM than any of the other Toyota teams, which may very well be the difference. I don't expect JGR to be that much slower at ORP this weekend, unless they sandbag like other teams have done in the past when they sanction a specific manufacturer.

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This change is for the NATIONWIDE cars.

For some reason, they haven't been taking Cup cars and dyno testing the engines this year like they have in the past... Seems like they maybe like their new 9 figure investor in the sport winning all the time.

What a crock of you know what... I am about had it with all sports in general. You know for a fact that nascar loves the "9 figure investor" everyone knows that. Almost getting to the point where I dont even like watching races anymore.

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There is no need to give the toilets a hp advantage. Even it out and see who can set up and race the best without any advantage.

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Maybe the advantage is the driver.

Quote:
CLERMONT, Ind. -- Kyle Busch led all but three laps Saturday night to win the Kroger 200, his sixth NASCAR Nationwide Series victory of the season.

Busch's win is Toyota's 15th in 22 Nationwide races, but the first event since NASCAR's mandate Wednesday to cut down the horsepower in Series engines knocked 15 horsepower out of Toyota's engines. NASCAR changed the parameters after rival teams complained, even though Toyota was within the rules.

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Could it be down force? He seams to be able to high or low. Maybe he just likes driving on or past the edge. He sure was jumping on the restarts.

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He's found something aND nascar will catch him yet. No one gets thats much faster or better without changing something.

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