Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
The Grebe

Question

27 posts in this topic

Whats up with this constant wind? What the heck creates it, where does it come from and why is it blowing in such a strong and sustained manner day after day? I've had to switch to a 30 gallon galvanized garbage can full of concrete for an anchor!

Seems like we have only had a few days all summer so far where the wind hasn't been blowing...must have something to do with the El Windo...El Nino is so last year. Any weather buffs out there?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well Grebe, how would you like to live here around Duluth. Not only windy but COLD!! Ya ist been bad all over this year. I think we got spoiled for the last 4 years with warm and dry days.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well, first off, the wind over the past couple days can be attributed to a strong low pressure system over Ontario. The lower the pressure, the stronger the wind. In addition, we have had a couple fronts go through over the past week. Fronts are actually in pressure troughs ('trofs') with lower pressure.

In addition to all this is the topography and general location where we are. Much of southern Minnesota is often windy... an extension off the downsloping plains in the Dakotas.

I will say that it seems like we have had several storm systems to deal with for the past several weeks, and they seem to be going through during the weekends... perhaps this is a major factor for your perceptions as well...

-Gregg B.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I think this going to turn into a political argument. After all something is not good (too much wind) and therefore someone or something has to be at fault. The blame must either fall on the Republicans or the Democrats.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Mr.Freeze is behind it all !

I go with steffanf says, its easier that way. The Mr.Freeze vs Neptune or Zeus debate might get ugly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Ever hear of La Nina'--opposite of El Nino'--we're in it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You are only partially correct steffanf. Wind is not the result of low pressure necessarily. Place yourself in the center of the pressure system and winds can be quite calm.

I believe the windiest areas are those where a low and high pressure meet. It is my understanding that this is because the high pressure rotates clockwise while the low pressure counterclockwise. When these two collide, the winds start to blow as they are squeezed through the funnel (wind tunnel) between them. The more contrasting the pressure systems are, the higher the wind speed.

Compound this with extreme temperature changes and the result is even more dramatic not to mention the storms that come along for the ride.

Bob

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I'm pretty sure that the strong west winds can be attributed to the fact that Green Bay sucks!! The Packers, that is, not the town.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Your all WRONG!!!! Jesse Ventura is in town thats where the wind comes from!!!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Your all WRONG!!!! Jesse Ventura is in town thats where the wind comes from!!!

Not! If it were Jesse's fault it would have been hot air

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I would rather fish in rain or snow then try to fish on a windy day. It is just to much work for me and takes the fun out of it.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Walleye chop.....

But will admit those breakers rolling in on the south side of Ottertail this weekend were a bit much

Lynn

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

let's see... in my neck of the woods, the wind has been swing from sw to nw... that must mean that the Dakotas blow and wisconsin sucks! hehehehehehehe laugh

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have been having this argument with a friend. It just seems that we can not get a day on the lake where the wind is not blowing so hard it makes it difficult to fish. I can stand some rain or snow, but wind throws your lures every which way and makes it impossible to work a spot for very long without the anchor.

Last year it didn't seem to be doing this every day.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have been having this argument with a friend. It just seems that we can not get a day on the lake where the wind is not blowing so hard it makes it difficult to fish. I can stand some rain or snow, but wind throws your lures every which way and makes it impossible to work a spot for very long without the anchor.

Last year it didn't seem to be doing this every day.

Man, last year sucked big time. Not for wind, but for heat!! I think it was to hot for the wind to even blow last year!

So now I'm reminded that I hate the heat as much as the wind.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

It's not Jesse, it's Chuck!

Chuck Norris is soooo though, the mere mention of his presence is like a windy storm as he's right behind you breathing down on your fishing excursion.

LOL's

Maybe it's just the ICast show...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The correct answer was touched on in a earlier post. Its pretty simple really...

The truth is that the Dakotas blow and Wisconsin sucks, being caught in the middle makes for very windy days.

Not much we can do about it, just get a bigger anchor.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You are only partially correct steffanf. Wind is not the result of low pressure necessarily. Place yourself in the center of the pressure system and winds can be quite calm.

I believe the windiest areas are those where a low and high pressure meet. It is my understanding that this is because the high pressure rotates clockwise while the low pressure counterclockwise. When these two collide, the winds start to blow as they are squeezed through the funnel (wind tunnel) between them. The more contrasting the pressure systems are, the higher the wind speed.

I really didn't want to make this really complicated, not to mention, a course in Weather 101. What you are saying about the center of low-pressure being calm is true. When it all comes down to it, it's about pressure GRADIENT. The steeper the gradient, the windier it is. Next time you look at a full weather map, make note of the isobars (lines of constant pressure). Think of these lines like depth contours on a lake map. When the lines are closer together, the steeper the drop-off. The same goes for isobars. When you have pressure lines closer together, the gradient is steeper, thus making the winds stronger. When you have a strong high pressure system relatively close to a low pressure system, the isobars will be tightly packed and the gradient very steep. At the same time, the winds can be relatively weak, even when you get right between a LOW and a HIGH. Strength and proximity are the keys that contribute to the gradient.

Strong low pressure centers will have a very tight gradient around them. They usually have a tighter gradient than any high pressure center typically has. Strong winds you are often seeing are most often the result of an approaching or departing low pressure system. There are always exceptions and topography plays a role here as well. Class dismissed...

P.S. Hope I didn't bore you all. I did like the crack about the Dakotas blow and Wisconsin sucks. I'll have to remember than one...

-Gregg B.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Man, last year sucked big time. Not for wind, but for heat!! I think it was to hot for the wind to even blow last year!

So now I'm reminded that I hate the heat as much as the wind.

Last year we had 27 days at 90 degrees or above. No wonder why I was actually glad to see winter come!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Gregg- thanks for the weather lesson, not boring at all.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

sooo, what tv channel do you work for in the weather dept.? just kidding, i seen that as a very interesting read actually. especially when you put it in contrast to a lakemap.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest
This topic is now closed to further replies.
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0



  • Posts



    • BEFORE BEGINNING

      Before you begin, make sure you have a good strong battery and make sure it's charged up. If you have a bad or weak battery, you may want to replace it because if it doesn't crank good and strong, you are likely to get a low, inaccurate reading. Make sure your engine is warmed up to operating temperature(if possible). About 10 minutes of riding should do.

      First, take out the spark plug and thread in the adapter for the compression tester. Make sure you have the correct size adapter for your particular ATV. Slide your kill switch to the "off" position. Some ATVs won't crank over with the kill switch in the "off" position, so if yours is like this, then you will need to either unhook your ignition coil or ground the end of the spark plug wire to a good ground. You can use a jumper wire with alligator clips on each end to ground it. Next, make sure the throttle is in the wide open position. You can either hold the throttle lever with your thumb or you may be able to tape it or use a zip tie to fasten it to your handlebars to hold it in the wide open position. If you don't have the throttle in the wide open position, you will probably get too low of a reading. Also, if you are testing a newly rebuilt engine, the engine needs to have been run for, at least, 30 or 40 minutes or you will probably get too low of a reading.

      NOTE: Before you begin with the actual test, make sure the threaded adapter is screwed in good and isn't leaking any air out around it.

      ACTUAL TESTING

      With the throttle in the wide open position, push the start button and crank the engine over until the hand on the gauge stops moving. Each time the engine turns over the hand should raise a little more until it reaches the maximum compression of the engine. When it stops, that is your compression reading. This usually takes no more than 10 seconds. Try to avoid cranking an engine for more than 10 seconds at a time as this is hard on the starter and the battery. Now, push the relief valve on your compression gauge and that will reset the hand back to zero. It's a good ideal to repeat the test a couple or three times to make sure you get an accurate reading. On kick start models, it will be the same procedure, but obviously you will be kicking it over instead of using a start button. Worn piston rings and cylinder walls will increase the number of strokes it takes to reach the maximum reading. If you're kicking, it could possibly take as many as 10-20 kicks to get the highest reading.

      THE READING

      You will need to check your repair manual for your particular model for the correct compression specifications. See note below. Usually, an engine will run OK if it has at least 100 PSI of compression. Most engines will have somewhere between 100-250 and some as high as 300 PSI, depending on the engine. Sometimes they will run with under 100 PSI, but usually not very well. If you get a low reading, you can do a "wet test" to try to help determine the problem.

      If your reading is too high, then you probably have carbon built up on your piston and combustion chamber.

      NOTE: You may get a low reading on some engines because some engines have a decompressor assembly built into the camshaft. Check the service manual for your quad to see whether or not your quad has a decompressor assembly built into the cam.

      WET TEST

      If you got a low reading, pour about 1-2 teaspoons of clean motor oil down into the cylinder through the spark plug hole and do the compression test again. If your reading increases, then your rings or cylinder walls are probably worn. If your reading doesn't increase, then it's probably your valves. You could have a bent valve, you may have leaky valve seats, or your valve clearance may not be adjusted properly. Also, low compression can be caused by a blown head gasket.

      CAUSES OF LOW COMPRESSION

      *Worn piston rings or worn or damaged cylinder walls
      *Leaking valves
      *Valve clearance not properly set
      *Blown head gasket

      CAUSE OF HIGH COMPRESSION (stock engines)

      *Carbon buildup in combustion chamber and on piston

      NOTE: Compression testing is a good way to keep track or "gauge" the wear in your engine. When you first get your ATV or when you rebuild the engine in your ATV, you can do a compression test and then later on, you can do them periodically. This will help you determine the wear in your engine each time you do a compression test and will guide you in knowing when your engine needs rebuilding.

      This is about all I can think of. I hope I didn't leave anything out and I hope this helps everyone with their compression tests.
    • As dumb as this sounds how is this done?
    • Try a compression check. And make sure the choke is opening all the way.
    • They are not the best out their but for the price and your average person not too bad I guess, Its going to send lead to where its pointed. This is probably what is going to happen he is going to buy a package shoot it for awhile then start upgrading everything to how he wants it and it is going to end up costing way more than if he just built one himself how he wants it.  
    • Hello, well I convinced my brother in-law to pick up my buddies old 1980 185 although pretty sure he said it was bored out to a 200? Here is the deal it's been sitting for a solid 8 years. I know it ran fine before. Not the delema-----   It starts right up (he bought a new carb odd amazon) although it sounds like a jet with high rpms. Looked at the throttle cable that's fine. Floats are fine. So he plugged this hole in the air filter and got it to idle down although when he hit the gas wouldn't get any power. Read a few things online and they tell you to just bypass the filter box and all that so back to amazon we went to get one of those filters that mount right up to the carb and it's still the same issue..   I just haven't seen anything like this? Do you guys have any thoughts or tricks that we/he could try?! Thanks in advance
    • Hi Everyone,  I'm looking into buying my first true fish finder and I'm a little perplex with the mapping card situation.  I'm looking at Humminbird Helix 5's and 7's.  I'm drawn to the autochart feature.  From my understanding, you can record 8 hours of charting onto the internal storage, but, is there any native mapping included on the unit or do I absolutely have to get some sort of mapping chip, zerolines or lake master, or navionics?  Can I store data on a blank SD card?  I've been researching this a lot and haven't found any conclusive answers. Thanks everyone!
    • Saul Good, Man.....  LOL 
    •   When do the not so rare Highjack birds show up?  Oh ah. 
  • Our Sponsors