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Instant Replay

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What do you all think? There has been talk of having it for MLB.

Do you think its a good thing to have or not?

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In my opionion Baseball should not use instant replay. Replays would really slow down a game. It is also a part of the game to have the manager argue with the umps. In football there are only 16 games per season and the chances of a few blown calls costing a trip to the playoffs justifies the reviews. In baseball they play 162 games and the blown calls will even out over a season. During the playoffs a blown call can eliminate a football team in one day. Baseball series rarely come down to one play miss called determining the series. If baseball goes with instant replay it should only be during the playoffs and only for weather the runner beat the ball to the glove. Trying to second guess balls and strikes would be painfull to watch. Even trying to determine if a hitter went around or pulled up on a pitch should be left to the umps.

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it would be fine for homeruns and close plays at home, but balls and strikes....there would be too many of that.

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One replay per team, per game. The games last to long now!!

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the thing with questionable calls right now, is that the umpires usually get together and talk it over and then they explain their decision to whichever manager is ticked off afterwards... which all takes up time.

instant replays could actually speed up the game in some of these situations.

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My pale hose have been "hosed" on a few terrible calls this year that instant reply could have easily overturned. I would favor something like football with a red flag and so many issued per team per game, maybe 2 or 3. One does not seem like enough but I think you have to define what can and can not be replayed.

Windy

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I thought they had a chip they could put in the baseball, and a sensor on home plate, and the foul poles and a computer then knows whether it is or not a home run, strike/ball. It was discussed that this type might be what will be used. But they were still going to use the umps until there was a questionable call, then go back and look at the computer.

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a good team can/and will overcome a bad call period. Move on a play the game regardless of the call.

I could maybe justify it for a home run. But not for balls and strikes. What do you do on a 3-2 pitch. That one call, on one pitch could be as big as a home run depending on how its called.

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I think it would be practical if used on home runs and close plays on the bases. I would limit the amount of replays allowed to each manager to one. And if they are right, maybe give em one more. I see they might try it on an experimental basis in the Arizona Fall League, so it will be interesting to see what happens.

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My pale hose have been "hosed" on a few terrible calls this year that instant reply could have easily overturned. I would favor something like football with a red flag and so many issued per team per game, maybe 2 or 3. One does not seem like enough but I think you have to define what can and can not be replayed.

Windy

Didn't know Ozzie Guillen was a member of this site- how cool!!!

JK, Windy!!. BTW- fair or foul only on the instant replay for me, alot of blown calls in that respect.

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Sportscenter had a thing on instant replay in MLB today. I've often been impressed at the fact that, for the most part, the umps make the right call. If a call is questionable, they huddle and make a decision. That decision is final, and sometimes it's kind of fun to watch the manager and ump bump chests and spit on each other. It's part of the game.

As stated, good teams play through a bad call and carry on. I say keep instatnt replay out of baseball and let the umps make the calls. All umps run home plate differetnly. Some have a big zone, some have a small zone. Part of the game is the pitcher, catcher, and hitters figuring out what the ump is going to give them.

Play the game, keep the replay out of the game.

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i really dont believe that baseball needs this. People make mistakes, and i believe that baseball should be the same as it is now. There is no reason that we need it.

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If replay happens i hope they do it in a way that does not prolong the game to much. Baseball is a game about momemtum and moevement. I would hate to see the game slowed down because of breaks for the replay booth...

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Could have aided the Twinks last night, I would be all for it, if it helps get the calls RIGHT then it is well worth it. Like was said about the A-Rod homer off the steps, it took a replay of 4 seconds to decide it bounced off the stairs. Compared to the robust umps waddling out to around second base, to decide what they had already CALLED. That took what 2 minutes for them to get the game back going. I think baseball has enough money to pay an Ump to sit up in the booth. Do they have a back-up ump at the games??

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I like the live interaction and having the umps who I think do an overall darn good job. I'm just saying I'm a purist.

But then again, I'm not a gambler so I can see some logic to having the replay. Overall, I don't like them in hockey or football so I am against it in baseball.

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There is no backup ump at games. I am not sure about playoffs...i would assume they do have backup umps then.

Replay would be alright in my eyes...but it can't delay as much as it does in football.

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