Guests - If You want access to member only forums on HSO. You will gain access only when you Sign-in or Sign-Up on HotSpotOutdoors.

It's easy - LOOK UPPER right menu.

  • Announcements

    • Rick

      Members Only Fluid Forum View   08/08/2017

      Fluid forum view allows members only to get right to the meat of this community; the topics. You can toggle between your preferred forum view just below to the left on the main forum entrance. You will see three icons. Try them out and see what you prefer.   Fluid view allows you, if you are a signed up member, to see the newest topic posts in either all forums (select none or all) or in just your favorite forums (select the ones you want to see when you come to Fishing Minnesota). It keeps and in real time with respect to Topic posts and lets YOU SELECT YOUR FAVORITE FORUMS. It can make things fun and easy. This is especially true for less experienced visitors raised on social media. If you, as a members want more specific topics, you can even select a single forum to view. Let us take a look at fluid view in action. We will then break it down and explain how it works in more detail.   The video shows the topic list and the forum filter box. As you can see, it is easy to change the topic list by changing the selected forums. This view replaces the traditional list of categories and forums.   Of course, members only can change the view to better suit your way of browsing.   You will notice a “grid” option. We have moved the grid forum theme setting into the main forum settings. This makes it an option for members only to choose. This screenshot also shows the removal of the forum breadcrumb in fluid view mode. Fluid view remembers your last forum selection so you don’t lose your place when you go back to the listing. The benefit of this feature is easy to see. It removes a potential barrier of entry for members only. It puts the spotlight on topics themselves, and not the hierarchical forum structure. You as a member will enjoy viewing many forums at once and switching between them without leaving the page. We hope that fluid view, the new functionality is an asset that you enjoy .
rundrave

Smaller brisket smoke method

Recommended Posts

found a smaller 3lb flat brisket at costco. Its really thin but got a little bit of fat covering one side of it, USDA choice if that matters.

how should I smoke this thing I am a little worried about drying it out with it being so thin. Never done brisket before as most of them are huge and just too much for my family to eat and I worry about ruining a big expensive piece of meat. But this one was small and cheap so no harm if I ruin it.

I just did a salt and pepper rub on it last night and its wrapped and sitting in the fridge. Was going to smoke it at 225 until it hit what temp? 160? Then wrap it in foil until it hits what temp? 200? Then let it rest for how long?

Does it need any braising liquid before or during the smoke or liquid added when its wrapped in foil? If so what would you suggest?

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Lol. If I remember right they say 1.25 hours per #, that little guy won't take all tgat long. I've always used a mop sauce after two hours in to it, but Reinhardt has a great recipe that has bacon covering it to keep it moist, I'll be trying that next!  I've always just brought it up to 200 then foil for burnt ends.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, rundrave said:

stopped reading immediately when it brought up liquid smoke....

Why?  Liquid smoke is made from real actual smoke from actual wood.    No different than using smoked ice in a drink or smoked salt...

Besides liquid smoke is only one option.  You can put it on the smoker before or after the sous vide to get bark and smoke flavor.   Sous Vide for the main part of the cook will keep it from drying out by controlling the temp.   Think of it as the ultimate "low and slow" cooking method.   

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, rundrave said:

found a smaller 3lb flat brisket at costco. Its really thin but got a little bit of fat covering one side of it, USDA choice if that matters.

how should I smoke this thing I am a little worried about drying it out with it being so thin. Never done brisket before as most of them are huge and just too much for my family to eat and I worry about ruining a big expensive piece of meat. But this one was small and cheap so no harm if I ruin it.

I just did a salt and pepper rub on it last night and its wrapped and sitting in the fridge. Was going to smoke it at 225 until it hit what temp? 160? Then wrap it in foil until it hits what temp? 200? Then let it rest for how long?

Does it need any braising liquid before or during the smoke or liquid added when its wrapped in foil? If so what would you suggest?

Yeah, I picked up a small one to try at a different meat place but glad your going first. :lol:

Post what you find works.  I heard wrapping the last few hours in wax less butcher paper helps keep the moister in at the end?

Good Luck. :)

thCAMAH4YO.jpg

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
2 hours ago, delcecchi said:

 

 Sous Vide for the main part of the cook will keep it from drying out by controlling the temp.   Think of it as the ultimate "low and slow" cooking method.   

I do catch a few competition cook offs now and then, but I'm not sure if I've ever seen anyone show up with a boiling contraption.  :whistle:

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, bobberineyes said:

I do catch a few competition cook offs now and then, but I'm not sure if I've ever seen anyone show up with a boiling contraption.  :whistle:

Probably against the rules as an unfair advantage....

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
4 hours ago, delcecchi said:
Quote

Using 'MasterChef gadget' to cook meat 'sous-vide' is a recipe for food poisoning

  • Experts say 'sous-vide' cooking method could raise the risk of food poisoning 
  • It involved vacuum-packing food in a water bath and slowly poaching for hours
  • But analysis by Public Health England revealed 'unsatisfactory' levels of bacteria 



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4913788/Cooking-meat-sous-vide-recipe-food-poisoning.html#ixzz4tvGzqT6E 
Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
59 minutes ago, Big Dave2 said:

 

Article totally lacking in scientific data.   155 degrees is plenty hot to pasteurize food.   Even USDA and FDA, the evil groups hated by Libertarians says 140 is hot enough.   Salmon at 115 or 120 is another story.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 minutes ago, delcecchi said:

Article totally lacking in scientific data.   155 degrees is plenty hot to pasteurize food.   Even USDA and FDA, the evil groups hated by Libertarians says 140 is hot enough.   Salmon at 115 or 120 is another story.  

The problem may be the amount of time food stays in the danger zone of 40 degrees to 140 degrees.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here is a pic I literally got the smallest one they had at Costco. Never seen one that small there before. This one was definitely not consistent with the rest of them.

I like my brisket sliced but would do pulled if I got it tender enough lol

Gonna take it out in the morning and give it a try in the smoker wish me luck 

IMG_1898.JPG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I do small ones all the time

Run my smoker at 220

Take out and put in foil pain at 160 internal temp put some beef broth in the bottom of pan and cover top with tin foil.

I usually pull around 192 take out let rest for at least 2 hours

slice eat make sandwiches and enjoy

12.jpg

123.jpg

12345.jpg

12346.jpg

3333.jpg

Edited by ZachD

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
5 hours ago, Big Dave2 said:

The problem may be the amount of time food stays in the danger zone of 40 degrees to 140 degrees.

 

According to the USDA, any food held in the so-called temperature "danger zone" (between 40°F and 140°F) for more than two hours presents a risk of food-borne illness from the growth of pathogenic bacteria — whether it's cooked sous vide or by conventional means. In truth, these numbers have a built-in buffer zone, so 130ºF is a much more accurate cutoff point. Harmful bacteria can't grow above that temperature, and at around 135ºF, most bacteria will actually be destroyed after a few hours, making pasteurization possible.

The precision temperature control of sous-vide cooking means it actually has the potential to be safer than traditional cooking methods. (This is exactly why one of its first major applications was making hospital food). And most home sous-vide circulators will let you know when you're cooking in the danger zone.

 

 

Anyway a lot of times you smoke briskets ect your food will be in the danger zone for awhile and it is perfectly fine. This is why I wont probe my meat until further in the cook where I know it is 140 otherwise you are introducing surface bacteria to the otherwise sterile center. With proper finished cooking temps you shouldn't have to worry anyway.

I look at the danger zone is more of a hold temp cook a turkey stick it on the table with a temp at 90 degrees for 4 hours eat turkey get sick.

 

 

 

 

 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
12 hours ago, Big Dave2 said:

The problem may be the amount of time food stays in the danger zone of 40 degrees to 140 degrees.

Then you better not ever eat prime rib in a restaurant.  

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You might want to rethink your internal temp of 200.  I take mine off the smoker at about 160 - 165, stick in small cooler and let rest an hour or so.  After the rest I will get an internal temp of 170 - 175. 

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
59 minutes ago, Kidd said:

You might want to rethink your internal temp of 200.  I take mine off the smoker at about 160 - 165, stick in small cooler and let rest an hour or so.  After the rest I will get an internal temp of 170 - 175. 

If you want a car tire sure if not cook it to 195

.... I find it hard to believe you are seeing a 10 degree raise pulling at 160 when typically that is where you get the stall.

 

Edited by ZachD

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

pulled it when it hit 165 took a littler longer than I expected but it was tender and a toothpick poked right through it. Its wrapped in foil and resting in the cooler now. Big mess of liquid as I was wrapping it up so I hope that's a good sign.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
3 hours ago, Kidd said:

You might want to rethink your internal temp of 200.  I take mine off the smoker at about 160 - 165, stick in small cooler and let rest an hour or so.  After the rest I will get an internal temp of 170 - 175. 

please do more research before you do this

If you only cook it to an internal temp of 175 it will be dry and really tuff, brisket needs to be "overcooked" till its probe tender, "like warm butter" usually 200+ up to 208 if you go too high it will fall apart when you slice it

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
1 hour ago, rl_sd said:

Toothpick tender at 165... Are you cooking brisket or tenderloin? Or maybe it should have been labeled as veal instead of beef with it being that small Lol.  A packer brisket usually runs 12-16# untrimmed. Most trimmed flats are in that 6-8# range. Never have I seen one that small. If it turns out good I may need to take a drive into SF and check out these baby briskets!

Yeah, well not everyone wants to shell out $30-40-50 for a #16+lb packer brisket just to make a few sandwiches for the game! ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Well here was the finished product. It turned out just ok. Not great but not terrible.

Got a good smoke ring and the thinner part of the brisket with less fat turned out perfect. Great texture and tender. The thicker part with the fat cap was still pretty tough but edible but still had slot of fat.

Not sure how I would do it  differently next time. I pulled it at 165 after almost 4 hours of smoke. Wrapped it in foil and then a towel and placed in a cooler. Temp rose to 200 and that's when I pulled it. I took one slice and it was plenty juicy but tough. Wrapped it back up and put it in the grill for a few mins just to get temp up to 200 and let it rest again in the cooler all wrapped up.

 

IMG_1903.JPG

IMG_1902.JPG

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I hear guys talking on BBQ shows smoking brisket for 8-10 hours, then wrapping and cooking it a few more!  I love the meat but that's a lot of time commitment!  :(

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now




  • Posts

    •   Now that sounds tasty! Smoked eggs and sliced rare deer heart....with some cold smoke...um num....
    • smoke em up boys ! ! !  
    • Wowzer talk about off topic! From deer hearts to chicken eggs. What's rundave gonna think!
    • I didn't need to see it, but mayhap some technical wizards would feel more at ease with a complete detailed explanation. Also depends on how in-depth yer "crayola app" is.   
    • If the pictures weren't enough, I would have needed to resort to the Crayola app if I wanted to put it into words.
    • You forgot to add the explanation to further educate all that may need it.   The egg, poop and urine (which for a chicken isn't a liquid) exits out of the same hole (aka, the vent, as you can see above). BUT, when an egg comes out, the chicken's Cloaca is turned inside out so that the egg cannot come in contact with the intestines (fecal matter nastiness).  
    • Do the crutches come with it as well?
    • The Tri-beam and the Proveiw are basically the same ducer, just that the Proview gives you infinite ability to dial down, or up your cone angle or sensitivity. The FLX28's low power and weed modes, are the "cat's meow" when dialed in properly. Lastly the color pallet options can be great when dealing with schools of different size fish gathered in confined areas, along with giving your eyes a break from the standard red. Here's my friend Cory Bechtold explaining what I mean....    http://www.vexilar.com/blog/2014/08/28/s-is-for-suppression Don't think this could possibly work on the FLX 28.        
    • "Fine." Yer sounding a bit petulant, Delmar.  Ya know what? YOU were the one that mentioned the "dirty water" they were raised in....on a certain thread on a certain site some time ago....... I found it!   But, that doesn't matter to me. Whatever works for ya.  I just don't eat shrimp anymore because of that. And, the egg is encapsulated before it comes out the butthole....in a shell, unlike other things that come outta there, and make it into the public media.  Snack on some sliced deer heart tartare with some salt and horseradish while ya do some reading...https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/08/14/farmed-shrimp.aspx
  • Our Sponsors