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Take supplements, die sooner.

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Far out, man.  

Study: Those High-Priced Antioxidants May Be Killing You

https://www.studyfinds.org/study-antioxidants-supplements-vitamin/

 

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BEIJING — Fear of mortality is one reason Americans spend so much on “antioxidant” products, including Vitamin C supplements and beta-carotene, which promise a longer healthier life. According to the National Institutes of Health, more than half of adults in the U.S. consume some kind of antioxidant product, spending $37 billion each year.

But a study http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2213231716304426 conducted in China – where aging is akin to a national obsession these days – claims that antioxidants don’t work as billed. The study is published in the journal Redox Biology.

A new study finds that antioxidant supplements may be more harmful to the human body than believed.

Rather than extending longevity, researchers say they trigger a stress reaction which causes the body to age more rapidly.

In other words, those expensive life-enhancers may actually be killing you.

Researchers discovered the relationship by studying how oxidants affected worms and human cells at various stages of development.  Oxidants, it turned out, had no measurable impact on aging.

But introducing antioxidants disturbed the mechanism in cells that resists aging and as a result, the cells began aging more rapidly — “unnaturally fast,” said Chen Chang, the lead scientist on the project at the Institute of Biophysics, part of the Chinese Academy of Sciences in Beijing.

Chang and her team are especially concerned about their findings because of the widespread use of antioxidants among Chinese youth.

“More and more ‘white collar workers’ in their 20s are taking pills containing antioxidants such as Vitamin C and tea polyphenols. They must stop,” Chang told the South China Morning Post.

But older people are also more likely to die faster due to supplements, they found.  Chang recommended that anti-oxidant use in China and elsewhere be curtailed.

The Chinese study appears to confirm the results of a 2008 “meta-review” of 405 studies

http://junkfoodscience.blogspot.com/2008/04/jfs-special-results-of-largest-study-on.html

http://www.cochrane.org/CD007176/LIVER_antioxidant-supplements-for-prevention-of-mortality-in-healthy-participants-and-patients-with-various-diseases

comparing the longevity of people that consumed various kinds of vitamin supplements with those that took only a placebo.

That review, conducted by top medical researchers in Denmark, found no significant differences in the mortality rates of the two groups.

So far, none of these new studies has put a dent in the multi-billion dollar vitamin and supplement industry, which continues to promote the presumed anti-aging benefits of its products.

And there is little evidence that consumers are paying attention, either – or if they are, that they care.

But the evidence against antioxidants is mounting.

Another medical study conducted last year found that overuse of Vitamin D supplements was associated with a higher risk of falls in men and in women 70 years and older.

Apparently, Nature is sending a message:  Stop trying to reset your biological clock.

 

 

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1 minute ago, tacklejunkie said:

You do end up with expensive urine. I think too many think supplements can cover for an unbalanced and bad diet.

 

Actually, the studies show that at least some of the supplements are harmful and don't have the overall beneficial effects hypothesized by their promoters.  

 

I thought that was an interesting fact.  The promoters will have to move on to new supplements that haven't been evaluated yet. 

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44 minutes ago, swamptiger said:

Anything on the long term effects of rat poison?...

Several, if you are talking about warfarin aka coumadin.   

 

On the other hand, I don't think zinc phosphide is on the recommended list for consumption.

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hey dont be dissin pharmacueticals!!!!!!!!:angry::cry: i spent 28 years building stainless steel vessels for them..........and 10 years now representing them workers!!!!!!!!

 

i gotz some left over pain meds................................................. :grin:

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7 minutes ago, smurfy said:

hey dont be dissin pharmacueticals!!!!!!!!:angry::cry: i spent 28 years building stainless steel vessels for them..........and 10 years now representing them workers!!!!!!!!

 

i gotz some left over pain meds................................................. :grin:

 

 

Ya, Flintstone chewables. :grin:

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Beijing-

Nice educational piece. Hilarious.

 

Funny looking back at how everybody gangs up on the "crazy" person, seems like you all were searching for like minds cause you couldnt do it on youre own. Lol. You guys are too rich. I never posted here and theres a couple mentions of me. Makes me sleep well at night with you guys thinking about me so much.

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On 2/21/2017 at 9:31 AM, tacklejunkie said:

You do end up with expensive urine. I think too many think supplements can cover for an unbalanced and bad diet.


Just eat well and you would need zero supplements, seems way easier and less expensive to boot.

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On 3/29/2017 at 7:18 PM, eyeguy 54 said:

you, like the rest of them are legends in your own minds. LOL 

 

Just like you being a social media queen, LOL

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Lol, that is funny. I seriously wasn't trying to be a dink there eyeguy, shouldve followed up with a chuckleface.  I enjoy your posts on the cooking page and on FB.

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