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Centering point on an Ion 8"

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Let me start buy saying that I got my Ion last year and loved it. That being said, the ice this year has me a bit concerned. The recent rain fall turned the snow into an uneven coating of ice across the entire lake. It works great outside .... it walks on the ice a few inches before it starts cutting then I am good to go.  The problem is in the wheel house it walks to the side and doesn't allow me to center the hole within the hole cover. Anyone else ran into this issue? I think that a center point would solve the issue. I thought that someone had tried this before but can't remember what the outcome was, and the search function seems to be broken again. Thought?

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On 1/1/2017 at 8:39 PM, Hawg said:

That's exactly why I bought this years drill for my last years Ion. 

Have you had it out yet? I was thinking about the same thing but have heard of some issues

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I've had the new Ion X out a couple times this year without any issues.  I love it!

 

Haven't used it in any extreme weather yet though.

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Posted this back in November.

It appears the ION auger has enough steel and space to add a point. Also from photos looks like there already a hole drilled into the center of the blade mounting bracket. I don't have an ION but I did add a point to my Vintage Mora where I converted my 6" and 8"  for my Clam Plate and in the process of adding an adapter for my Eskimo Mako. I drilled and tapped the auger blade mounting bracket to 3/8-20 tap (anything smaller the tap will break due to steel hardness).

 

I cut the point out of a Wood Spade drill bit, cut a slot in a 3/8-20 bolt and welded the cut blade to the bolt. While very hot from welding drop the welded point in oil to fast cool and recover some of the lost hardness from welding heat. Sharpen the point to the same angle as the bit point. You can probably buy a auger center bit from Eskimo as I have one on my 10" Mako.

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Screwed the bolt into the blade bracket where I drilled and tapped a hole with a lock washer at the base. You may need to add other washers to obtain the point position to the space between the blades.

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Extra washer on my 6" to get the point centered between the blades. This point was made with a 1" wood drill bit. The 5/8" bit top picture on my 8". Found both points work equally well.

 

Because it is a Mora hand auger, I modified the blade with ice relief cuts and put a .015 shim on the leading edge of the blade to increase the cut angle. Hand augers have a more shallow bite compared to my Eskimo Mako due to the force it takes to turn the hand auger. Skip adding a shim to your ION.

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Ended with amazing results in no blade walking and increased drill speed through the ice on my Clam Drill Plate.

 

Out Last Wed. with Buddy who has the ION without point on same Ice you described. Had a tough time drilling an 8" hole in my Hub floor 11" opening due to blade drift.

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52 minutes ago, Hawg said:

Ion tech says it wii screw up the leading edge of the blades, they are not far enough apart.  

 

Thanks Hawg... I had sent a msg yesterday to Ion and I assume that I will get the same response back.

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I tried adding a point to the 1st gen ION. It does screw up the leading edge of the blade and doesn't cut at all.

 

 

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Just now, Moon Lake Refuge said:

Curious how much walking you guys are seeing?  Only used our a handful of times last year but I never saw any movement from when I put the blade on the ice.  

I was in the same boat as you... but last year the ice was much smoother and there was some some on the lakes. This year after the rain on the snow it created very uneven, yet smooth bumps. Last weekend I had an issues drill a 8" hole inside of a 13" hole cover without hitting the sides.

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